those dodgy sellers/tuners - hayward rotary...

[HaywardRotary]

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even got chance to see the lovely n/a gen1 running a 13b race car of stacy vickers . which has one two races now i might add top job the cars so clean and engine looked very minimal but for two wins obviously just the ticket from hayward rotary.
 

Not going to slag off Carl, as he is good at what he does best.....:Talking1 But credit where credit is due. Staceys car was built and developed by Pip and Dave at WGT over a period of 4-5 years. :Thumbs-up
 
J[/QUOTE]

Hi Jurg,

Just want to mention that Stacy has an engine built by me in his car and last two races he won with it and also broke Oulton park lap record with it.
300hp flywheel,10,000rpm.
So I don\'t just talk,but I do indeed walk the walk as well,and we at Hayward Rotary have been along with Stacy and his crew looking after Stacy\'s car this year. Also Stacy himself has done a complete strip down and rebuild of the car over the winter.
I would go as far as to say that Stacy developed this car over the last 4 or 5 years and his ideas have been implemented by WGT to great effect.Also Stacy is a very good driver.
Regards
Carl

[HaywardRotary]

After the service and excuses you gave him, you have got to be joking.
Especially after JayD managed to map it fully without the ignition problems that were restricting you from doing so... and once he bought an ignition set up off you then you would have been able to map it.

No excuses,the car must have had igniton problems when we were trying to tune it or I would not have said it.
Since i do not know who it is you are talking about then it is hard to defend,but I take my customers and our work very seriously and also am VERY honest in our work and diagnosis.
For all I know you friend might have even had bad fuel in the car.
Who is your friend?
Regards
Carl

[batman]

i cant understand how certain people seem to have issiues with carl and hayward .if theres an issiue then he s always said come back let him have another go. or he\'ll sort the problem .
you will always get people that slag others off thats just life but its a shame when all they do is mouth off and never have the balls to go back and say ok what was the problem and let him fix it ?
i just suppose its easier to kick some one when there down and not letting them get up !!!!!!
 
"LOL wowww Carl is giving good service to someone who will give him awesome exposure. What a suprise!"
 
well credit where credit is due . never bull ....ted me like some never told me anything that isnt true if he s unsure he wont do it .sounds like my kind of attitude and business.a**


"Shame he does not do that consistently for all customers hey? If only he gave my friend as much of a helping hand as he did you "
 
what do you expect if you publicaly make a point of slagging the guy off to a tea then i would help you either.
 


Be careful of believing what Carl says to you as my friend found out, was a bunch of LIES
 
well he must have lied about the plumbing being wrong on my car and lied about the safe ness of my map and lied about supplying car parts from his own vehicle and lied about the discount he gave me because i always recomend his work to others and shall we continue .......
carl go sit in the corner and think about what you did .....
 
and thanks very much again .

[Rzla]

Lol try and pull the other one Carl. Are you for real that\'s the best you can come out with?
The ignition was not touched from the point when you said you could not map it because of ignition problems.
Took it to JayD who mapped the car fine, without adjusting anything at all. Why was JayD able to map and it and not yourself?
The part that makes it all look fishy is the fact that you said for X amount you could install a new ignition set up for him and then map it.
 
All I am saying is apply the same consistency to all your customers and not a selection of customers or those who spend the most money with you.
 
To be honest we expected JayD to have problems because we genuinely thought you were being honest about the ignition problems.
When Jay mapped it to 0.9bar he was a bit suprised the poor guy. He actually thought what you said may have been correct.

[batman]

that play on words doesnt make sense now hypo

[batman]

Lol try and pull the other one Carl. Are you for real that\'s the best you can come out with?
The ignition was not touched from the point when you said you could not map it because of ingition problems. He suspected nothing was wrong.
Took it to JayD who just mapped the car fine, without adjusting anything at all. Why was JayD able to map and it not yourself?
The part that makes it all look fishy is the fact that you said for X amount you could install a new ignition set up for him and then map it.
 
All I am saying is apply the same consistency to all your customers and not a selection of customer or even those who spend the most money with you. And don\'t take the ones you think know nothing and try and hussle them for more money.
 
To be honest we expected JayD to have problems because we genuinely thought you were being honest about the ignition problems.
When Jay mapped it to 0.9bar he was a bit suprised the poor guy. He actually thought what you said may have actually been correct.

 
or
 
maybe he wasnt happy with something and didnt want to say ok pay me £350 and a week later it goes pop in a business sense id do the same thing . if somethings not right he could have just done it and never cared
and then been slated again who knows ?

[HaywardRotary]

Lol try and pull the other one Carl. Are you for real that\'s the best you can come out with?
The ignition was not touched from the point when you said you could not map it because of ingition problems.
Took it to JayD who just mapped the car fine, without adjusting anything at all. Why was JayD able to map and it not yourself?
The part that makes it all look fishy is the fact that you said for X amount you could install a new ignition set up for him and then map it.
 
All I am saying is apply the same consistency to all your customers and not a selection of customer or even those who spend the most money with you.
 
To be honest we expected JayD to have problems because we genuinely thought you were being honest about the ignition problems.
When Jay mapped it to 0.9bar he was a bit suprised the poor guy. He actually thought what you said may have actually been correct.

So Who is it?
For all i know it could be a made up story.
Regards
Carl

[strange_days_uk]

Allow me to state that I have only ever experienced integrity and genuine concern from Carl.  Ok, on a personal level he does sometimes annoy/upset people, but then who hasn\'t.  In business terms, he is a proffessional always and strives to help people and give them a 100% service.

Rzla - can you give us some more details ?  Maybe your friend has got the wrong end of the stick ?  Ignition breakup is a very big deal, and dealers have been critisized big time on here before for not spotting it and cars going pop.

[S3TH]

Rzla, stop being such a drama queen, MRC is so past all these petit arguements. IME Carl is a great, down to earth bloke with massive RE knowledge & offers a very personal service. That doesn\'t detract from JD\'s or powergains awesomeness, it\'s just not fair to throw around accusations that could be detrimental to his business, especially when they aren\'t even your own experiences.

[Brett]

Play nice boys and girls or I\'ll take your toys away, (that\'s you RZLA) if you want to name and then you need either a) personal experience, or b) name your friend so that a reasoned argument can take place.

Cheers,

Brett :wave

[Bulla]

An innocent thread turned into a Carl bashing thread ? Surely not ! I thought this was MRC not FDUK :Giggle

[Rzla]

Lol ever asked yourself the question why does it generally happen to Carl?
I will ask my friend to come and say so for himself... but the thing you have forgotten is \'\'WARRANTY\'\' that has come with the engine Carl made him.
 
Nowhere in this thread did I state that he has not achieved anything. I am merely trying to get some answers off him to which he blatently refuses to respond to. Why?
I just want to know why when he mentioned the ignition being the restricitive aspect to his mapping of the car that another tuner was able to map?
To be frank if he had not said to my friend I can install an ignition set up for X amount, then he could map. But to me it seems like a ploy to get some more money which is to be honest disappointing because money does not grow on trees.
 
If you had the same experience believe me you would be asking the same questions.
 
And for the record if there was ignition break up JayD would not have mapped the car, that is without doubt. If there was a hint of ignition breakup Jay would have told him to he was not able to map until that got sorted.

[HaywardRotary]

WHO ARE WE TALKING ABOUT?
HOW CAN I ANSWER IF I DON\'T KNOW WHO IT IS?
Regards
Carl

[Bulla]

I couldn\'t care less why it happens to Carl, he\'s a big boy he can fight his own battles. But why bust in on someone elses thread when you could have created your own ?

If I\'d have had the the same experience I would have rang him and asked him why.

Bulla

[gsb876]

RZLA - please keep it clean on here and take up the issues with Carl in person via phone call or email, almost every tuner will have some bad experiences out there.

Infact the other tuners mentioned have had threads on here with bad experiences too so not quite fair to mention them.

If your mate has had a bad experience either get him to get into contact with Carl or let him represent himself :cheers

thanks