20B FD Qs

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antnicuk

#60
July 26, 2009, 10:47:27 AM
drop him an email, we bought our last year so not sure what the price would be now as things have gone up.
400 BHP - 650 KG\'s = 616 BHP Per Ton of Rotary Power

That\'s the way to do it! :Thumbsup!

Mims

#61
July 28, 2009, 01:03:06 AM
If you want to do 20b conversion why don\'t you ask the tuners in OZ? I\'m sure it\'ll be cheaper shipping your car over to OZ with all the bits you want to add to the conversion then shipping an engine to the UK. Infact I know it will be cheaper shipping a car to OZ and back. I have been in both V8 and 20b FDs both 500rwhp and must say the V8\'s are much quicker and alas they do sound alike, 20b\'s only sound different when bridged/pp\'d. Also the V8\'s are much more fuel efficient when you are giving it beans or just loitering around. Whether V8\'s should be in an RX7 is another story I am just commenting on sound and power.

Ant what work was done on the car you posted pics of? Whats your email? I want specifics lol. As thats a work of art!

colin777

#62
July 28, 2009, 09:27:38 AM
well i have a mechanic in ireland that will do the rebuild and fitting. just if its cheaper to buy a 20b from uk rather than oz. im not sending the car over and back, all the charges i will be hit with i could buy another rx7

antnicuk

#63
July 29, 2009, 09:17:52 AM
Anybody see the TOTB results? :)
400 BHP - 650 KG\'s = 616 BHP Per Ton of Rotary Power

That\'s the way to do it! :Thumbsup!

Spartacus

#64
July 29, 2009, 10:03:30 AM
Quote from: antnicuk;630366Anybody see the TOTB results? :)

I did!!:mmmm:King

antnicuk

#65
July 29, 2009, 10:13:19 AM
You gonna sell me you car yet phil?
400 BHP - 650 KG\'s = 616 BHP Per Ton of Rotary Power

That\'s the way to do it! :Thumbsup!

BlitzBoy

#66
July 29, 2009, 10:18:20 AM
Quote from: antnicuk;630366Anybody see the TOTB results? :)

Nothing for the RX7s to be proud of Tony, V8 or Rotary powered, Rx7s got beat by 3 FWD 4 pot Vauxhall cars in the quarter!

All the Rx7s had issues at TOTB whether it be mechanical or Tyres for grip, its a shame we cant compare Sicknotes Tripple as he had his wastegate problem and producing hardly any boost.

Yes well done for Craig in the handling, it does show his car has good balance and is a good conversion.

Hopefully next year everyone will bring their A Game and have no issues and we can come out near the top in all three disciplines
"Piston Killa" 3rd Gen\'94 \'Oldone Racing Full Bridge Ported REW 13b engine with SCR seals\'. HKS T51 KAI turbo BBM mapped Motec ECU

JDS/HKS Street Class Championship Runner up 2011
Rotorstock winner 08,09
http://pistonkilla.blogspot.com/
old spec HB T51 470 @ wheels @ 1.2 BAR, 555 @ fly 10.46 @ 130 @ 1.25 Bar
new spec FB T51 482 @ wheels @ 1.15 BAR, 570 @ fly

New Project
"el fénix" RX2 by Mark & Mark

Kash_

#67
July 29, 2009, 10:28:10 AM
QuoteAnybody see the TOTB results
well I guess considering the fact Craig is an experienced track driver who also entered Time Attack last year has nothing to do with it? hmmmmmmmm

Kash_

#68
July 29, 2009, 10:31:29 AM
Quote from: Mims;630116If you want to do 20b conversion why don\'t you ask the tuners in OZ? I\'m sure it\'ll be cheaper shipping your car over to OZ with all the bits you want to add to the conversion then shipping an engine to the UK. Infact I know it will be cheaper shipping a car to OZ and back. I have been in both V8 and 20b FDs both 500rwhp and must say the V8\'s are much quicker and alas they do sound alike, 20b\'s only sound different when bridged/pp\'d. Also the V8\'s are much more fuel efficient when you are giving it beans or just loitering around. Whether V8\'s should be in an RX7 is another story I am just commenting on sound and power.

Ant what work was done on the car you posted pics of? Whats your email? I want specifics lol. As thats a work of art!

I\'m sorry but I refuse to believe a 500rwhp V8 is quicker than a 500rwhp 20B... must have been something wrong with the 20B you went it :Giggle

BlitzBoy

#69
July 29, 2009, 10:35:32 AM
Quote from: Kash_;630383well I guess considering the fact Craig is an experienced track driver who also entered Time Attack last year has nothing to do with it? hmmmmmmmm

In keeping with the theme of the Thread, Sicknotes 20B wasnt boosting correctly so he had no chance to give Craig a run for his money, and the rest of the 13Bs Col was running very low boost , and Rob was having clutch problems. You could say that is Rotary powered cars all over having issues. But Robbies V8 powered FD didnt even make it and he has been having issues all year. So V8 or Rotary they all have the quirks and problems

If no one had any issues, then yes you can give it the "I told you so" comment of Tonys "Anybody see the TOTB results? :) "
But seeing as the rest of the guys were having problems its a bit unfair for Tony to give that comment :Hammer lol
"Piston Killa" 3rd Gen\'94 \'Oldone Racing Full Bridge Ported REW 13b engine with SCR seals\'. HKS T51 KAI turbo BBM mapped Motec ECU

JDS/HKS Street Class Championship Runner up 2011
Rotorstock winner 08,09
http://pistonkilla.blogspot.com/
old spec HB T51 470 @ wheels @ 1.2 BAR, 555 @ fly 10.46 @ 130 @ 1.25 Bar
new spec FB T51 482 @ wheels @ 1.15 BAR, 570 @ fly

New Project
"el fénix" RX2 by Mark & Mark

mattfduk

#70
July 29, 2009, 10:35:41 AM
Quote from: Kash_;630383well I guess considering the fact Craig is an experienced track driver who also entered Time Attack last year has nothing to do with it? hmmmmmmmm

Totally different Craig Kash

Spartacus

#71
July 29, 2009, 10:46:47 AM
Quote from: antnicuk;630377You gonna sell me you car yet phil?

PM sent.

Boy these guys are quick to find excuses, anyone would think us V8 guys take it seriously.:Giggle

Spartacus

#72
July 29, 2009, 10:51:43 AM
Quote from: BlitzBoy;630386But Robbies V8 powered FD didnt even make it and he has been having issues all year. So V8 or Rotary they all have the quirks and problems.

Now to be accurate he hasn\'t touched it all year after loosing interest following the attempted robbery. Then as usual he decides to try and do too much in only a short space of time, (hero that he is).

BlitzBoy

#73
July 29, 2009, 10:59:16 AM
Quote from: Spartacus;630391Now to be accurate he hasn\'t touched it all year after loosing interest following the attempted robbery. Then as usual he decides to try and do too much in only a short space of time, (hero that he is).

True true he is mental I would have given up on Rx7s years ago with the luck he has had, I need rub some of my car luck onto him, then all you V8 guys can be as quick as me lol :rollin
"Piston Killa" 3rd Gen\'94 \'Oldone Racing Full Bridge Ported REW 13b engine with SCR seals\'. HKS T51 KAI turbo BBM mapped Motec ECU

JDS/HKS Street Class Championship Runner up 2011
Rotorstock winner 08,09
http://pistonkilla.blogspot.com/
old spec HB T51 470 @ wheels @ 1.2 BAR, 555 @ fly 10.46 @ 130 @ 1.25 Bar
new spec FB T51 482 @ wheels @ 1.15 BAR, 570 @ fly

New Project
"el fénix" RX2 by Mark & Mark

Spartacus

#74
July 29, 2009, 11:00:38 AM
Quote from: Kash_;630384I\'m sorry but I refuse to believe a 500rwhp V8 is quicker than a 500rwhp 20B... must have been something wrong with the 20B you went it :Giggle

Why can you not believe it? Or is it that you don’t want to believe it?

Surely it all comes down to power to weight and available torque?

I\'m guessing that they must weigh a similar amount (if the 20b was na or the V8 lighter if the 20b was turbo charged), and also guessing that the V8 would have more torque which would be available at much lower revs?

If I\'m wrong with any of this, I’m open to learn, enlighten me.
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