20B FD Qs

Started by colin777, July 20, 2009, 01:04:57 PM

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Will66

If you want to get all technical a 20b is much smoother than a v8, sound is entirely subjective, one man\'s Beethoven is another man\'s Cheeky Girls and so forth.  Personally I would rather like a 20b in my RX8, street port, big turbo, nice round 500 bhp and plenty of torque in a fairly unstressed way.  However until I win the lottery or discover a fool proof method of evading Somali Pirates or something I\'ll stick with a two rotor in it.  I reckon getting a V8 in an RX8 would be possible but it\'s not so appealling.
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D7REU

Not even every V8 engine sounds the same.

Ever heard a F430 compared to a Big ol\' American V8?
 
BIG diff.
 
The infrastructure of a Piston engine dictates the sound it makes, depending on the type of crankshaft etc. It may be possible to get a rotary and a V8 to sound similar on idle, but on WOT it would not be possible to get the same sound, for the basic fact that each engine consists of completely different components.

But regardless of that, 20B FTW!

D7REU

Quote from: Will66;629488If you want to get all technical a 20b is much smoother than a v8, sound is entirely subjective, one man\'s Beethoven is another man\'s Cheeky Girls and so forth.  Personally I would rather like a 20b in my RX8, street port, big turbo, nice round 500 bhp and plenty of torque in a fairly unstressed way.  However until I win the lottery or discover a fool proof method of evading Somali Pirates or something I\'ll stick with a two rotor in it.  I reckon getting a V8 in an RX8 would be possible but it\'s not so appealling.


:Thumbsup!

Spartacus

Oops, hands up how many people have listened to (in the flesh) an LSx V8 in a FD and a 20b in an FD?
Or shall we just forget it and let the original poster have his thread back?:Yawn

Spartacus

Quote from: Will66;629488I reckon getting a V8 in an RX8 would be possible but it\'s not so appealling.
Been done already:driving

antnicuk

Quote from: Spartacus;629500Oops, hands up how many people have listened to (in the flesh) an LSx V8 in a FD and a 20b in an FD?
:Yawn



:wave  Yes,  me last week, next to each other.

basically they are mental engine, do sound great, make loads of power and if you have the money, go for it, there are probably still more V8 rx7\'s than there are 20b\'s so you will be one of the lucky few but remember you cant buy the centre housings any more and the engines are pretty rare to start with, there is no support from mazda any more and parts are rocketing in price,  new rotor housings used to be under 300 quid not too long ago, now they are £1000 :eek:  Tips used to be £24 each, they are now over £50 and you need 9 of them  :2Rolleyes
400 BHP - 650 KG\'s = 616 BHP Per Ton of Rotary Power

That\'s the way to do it! :Thumbsup!


D7REU

Quote from: Spartacus;629500Oops, hands up how many people have listened to (in the flesh) an LSx V8 in a FD and a 20b in an FD?
Or shall we just forget it and let the original poster have his thread back?:Yawn


Good point, the original thread was about 20B\'s, why even bring in a V8 conversion?

Regardless of hearing it or not, mechanically speaking the ENGINE cannot make the same sound.

Kash_

guys can we please keep the thread to what it is and keep the V8\'s out of here!

Kash_

How can you ever beat this sound :D Seriously?

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Kash_

hmmmmmmmm :god

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Kash_

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antnicuk

Please take this the way it was written...... light heartedly! ....... i have put more useful technical stuff on this thread than anyone else because i have done exactly the same conversion,  Spartacus gave him another option as an alternative for an engine swap which is cheaper and can ultimately provide the same power and more torque.  He has done the V8 conversion himself so is in a perfect position to give advice to the fella,  just because you dont like V8\'s , doesnt mean someone may not like the info spartacus is giving.

I think its definately keeping the thread on track,  Rzla was the one taking things off track by saying he wouldnt hhave a V8 cos of the sound it makes.  I would never make my choice of engine by the sound it makes.   Plus, anny B/P rotary just sounds like woopee cushion to me,  not nice at all!  but each to their own  :)

I have a rotary not a V8 but if I were a betting man, i would be putting money on Tinkers V8 rx7 being the fastest RX7 at TOTB!
400 BHP - 650 KG\'s = 616 BHP Per Ton of Rotary Power

That\'s the way to do it! :Thumbsup!


Rzla

Lol well you would lose your money ant.
 
Give me a v8 and a rotary with the same power and same driver.. the rotary would be quicker.
 
And secondly I did not say I would not have a v8 purely because of the sound it makes, don\'t put words in my mouth, that is one of the reasons.
A v8 does not belong in an rx7 is another reason why I would not have a v8 in an rx7, as I said the r in 7 stands for ROTARY. There are many reasons but I won\'t go into them.
The sound point I was just a quick point I was picking out about why I would not have the v8 in an rx7.There are many more but I will not go into them.
Another car maybe, but not a rex.
 
If your 20b sounds like a v8 than something is seriously going wrong lol. :p

colin777

Quote from: Rzla;629341:Santa
Yea V8s suck dude.
We share the same interests lol :p
Can you get more than one block?

ya the place i found the block has 4 in total

colin777



wow that looks complicated, what ever plan ye had with this its mental, never seen one look like that around. fiar play, i wont be trying to replicate that, will try to keep it simple as possible
what ecu you going with next and is a gt42r turbo a nice setup with plenty of fuel :burnout