speaker wiring

[sheprx7]

have had a little serch and cant find anything that can help me. i am fitting in an aftermarket stereo and have hooked up the live,ign live and earth but cant for the life of me find the speaker wires! now the original stereo used a large cable housing around 10-11 wires one of which i have found to be the remote aerial, so i assumed these would be front and rear =ve\'s and -ve\'s but they\'re not! any ideas?

[batman]

check you have speakers in the holes first thing then check the remaining wires have no power out puts with and without ignition on then use a square 9 volt battery to pop /test all the remaining wires can take a little time pair them up and go through different combinations till you hear  a pop then lable that up thats a pair repeat till you have fronts and rears job done
failing that wire new cable to everything

[pdtaylor18]

Quite common for some cars to have the wires cut,dont know why they do it but they do. If you take your centre console out you might have a better idea of what has gone on but all the FC\'s have the wires regardless.  If its been butchered then its easier to install new thicker wires as the originals are rather thin. In the drivers and passenger side kick panels are the green block connectors,if you can locate the spealer wires there then at least you can tap into it there. To run new cables through the door hinges etc is a right pain in the butt and time consuming job to do it properly.

Heres the diagram for you.

[pdtaylor18]

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[sheprx7]

check you have speakers in the holes first thing then check the remaining wires have no power out puts with and without ignition on then use a square 9 volt battery to pop /test all the remaining wires can take a little time pair them up and go through different combinations till you hear a pop then lable that up thats a pair repeat till you have fronts and rears job done
failing that wire new cable to everything

 
but the thing is the old clairon was working fine so i know the wires are connected fine and i have salvaged all te wires that connected to the old stereo so im really confused as to why i cant find the speakers :S

[pdtaylor18]

Well they must be there for the old one to work, think you are missing something thats right in front of your eyes. Have a look at the diagram for the wire colours but lets not forget that your new unit might be faulty,can happen.

[sheprx7]

Well they must be there for the old one to work, think you are missing something thats right in front of your eyes. Have a look at the diagram for the wire colours but lets not forget that your new unit might be faulty,can happen.

 
 
have taken the unit out of my golf so i know it works. am very confused and must be missing something!:3Confused  checked the colour of the wires coming from the speakers but unfortunately they dont seem to correlate to any behind the centre console

[L18M]

didnt the fc headunits have like a pre-amp to them?
dunt sound right to have a poxy / stock headunit to run 6 speakers (2 in rear, 2 in door and 2 undeer dash)
IMO just rewire it and chuck in an amp for good measure

[sheprx7]

didnt the fc headunits have like a pre-amp to them?
dunt sound right to have a poxy / stock headunit to run 6 speakers (2 in rear, 2 in door and 2 undeer dash)
IMO just rewire it and chuck in an amp for good measure

would make sense if they did have a pre amp as the huge cable on the back of the old unit is labled \'to amp\'.
 
really cant be botherd to run new cables!!! will have another look about later today and report back! probly with the reply \'they were right in front of me all along!\':rollin

[L18M]

worth looking for the pre-amp then (think was under the glove box area) then jus bypass the pre-amp

i re-wired it and it wasnt too bad (tho i kinda like doing things like that)
jus saw u located in oxfordshire. im sometimes there. wheres pics of ur fc?
i cant remember who had the white fc in wheatley

[rx7pat]

if it is running though an amp you may find the speaker wires run to where the amp was like in the boot or under the seat. If not at the head unit you should have had two (brown or black i think) connectors which used to fit in the old head unit. One would have 12v, GND and Memory 12v and a few others but the other shoud have all the pairs of speaker cables. They will be all the same thickness and the pairs should be colour coded with a stripe to indicate +/- for each speaker.

[L18M]

oh.. rx7pat reminded me of sth.. if the headunit went to pre-amp then that signal would be a low level output which would not be able to power the speakers.
best to extend wires from the pre-amp to the headunit speaker out.

[sheprx7]

worth looking for the pre-amp then (think was under the glove box area) then jus bypass the pre-amp
 
i re-wired it and it wasnt too bad (tho i kinda like doing things like that)
jus saw u located in oxfordshire. im sometimes there. wheres pics of ur fc?
i cant remember who had the white fc in wheatley

 

 

 

[pdtaylor18]

Pre-amp is on the drivers side usually just behind the dash speaker if you have one.

[sheprx7]

All done, found the pre-amp and bypassed the wires. cheers guys