Need some help with the MOT

m1tch · March 06, 2009, 10:13:26 PM

Hey guys, I have my MOT for the RX this thursday, I have checked the CO levels and they are at 0.9%, so thats ok (I still have the air pump in)

The problem I have is when I checked around the car I found a rust hole

its on the front passenger side, I have taken some photos, it seems really square so im not sure if its an issue. On the last MOT there was no advisories, and this seems to have been there for a while now.

It seems that some of the underseal has come off just there and its rusted, everywhere else on the car is fine, I have posted some photos:

(sorry they aren\'t hugly clear, its difficult to get to!)

Is this defined as \'structual\'? When my boost controller was put in we had the carpets up and there wasn\'t any hole to be seen there, must be right in one corner or something.

Prof · March 06, 2009, 10:27:54 PM

Where abouts is this hole - is it within 12" of A B or C pillars or seat mounts or seatbelt tie ?

m1tch · March 06, 2009, 10:28:08 PM

It seems, when I put my finger inside its part of the box section of the Chassis rail, just part of the bottom of the box section has rusted though due to the lack of underseal, its a really square hole though, thats whats so wierd lol do you think I should conceal this for the MOT? Although, last MOT there was no advisories or any notes about it at all.

If you look at the side of the car, its a few inches behind the arrow on the front spats where the jacking point is

I bet its going to be an MOT fail

Prof · March 06, 2009, 10:34:43 PM

I think it needs a plate welding in - you\'d be looking at no more than Â£200 for someone to do that - probably less as it looks smallish.

But don\'t leave it - it\'s unlikely to pass with that because of where it is.

m1tch · March 06, 2009, 10:37:31 PM

Ok, my road tax will probably run out and I will have to SORN the RX as well until I can get it sorted

Is there anyway I should perhaps try and cover it over so it will pass then I will have time to sort it?

Why wasn\'t something like this on my last MOT?

L18M · March 07, 2009, 12:09:24 AM

you can always buy jimmi H fc lol

colin5524 · March 07, 2009, 07:17:02 AM

i would take a chipping hammer and give a good hiding right back to the strong metal as i found a small hole and it ended up the whole way up the side of the chassis rail, and i would weld 1.5-2mm plater over it prime and paint it then wire brush the hole underneath and use a waxcoyl/stonechip mix(to water it down) in a spray bottle and give everything a good few coats. maybe a coat every 15mins and about 4 coats.

grinder · March 07, 2009, 10:05:11 AM

as colin said - if you think its a hole - then you may aswell find out

i started off with 5 small holes - by the time i got back to good metal - i had found that i had no inner and outer sills

David Nock (RIP) · March 07, 2009, 11:24:50 AM

IMHO that\'s a structural fail. As Prof (as always when he\'s bloodx well posted 1st!), a welding jobbie needs to be arranged.

grinder · March 07, 2009, 12:22:05 PM

thats where mine went aswell - it looks like the front jacking point

mine was soo weak - it just fell apart

welding is easy - its the prep work

carpet up - trim out - ecu protected ( not sure how close it is ) etc...

Prof · March 07, 2009, 01:45:52 PM

Quote from: David Nock;589418IMHO that\'s a structural fail. As Prof (as always when he\'s bloodx well posted 1st!), a welding jobbie needs to be arranged.

Sorry :o - was just on line at the time the post came in :Giggle

Still - advice from you or Grinder is well worth regarding in this area - glad you still posted - I know M1tch and he might think I wasn\'t giving him the full picture.

I don\'t think this is a showstopper - if he get\'s it sorted properly and soon, the car can live on for years to come.

My other half had some major welding on her zed - all 4 corners and 1 sill - and that was only Â£600 all in - flew through the MOT no probs.

colin5524 · March 07, 2009, 02:35:30 PM

Yip it is quite soul destroying hacking away at the inner sills and seeing the inside of the cars frame

grinder · March 07, 2009, 03:55:41 PM

whats more soul destroying is hacking the inner sill and then seeing your feet !! LOL

best bet mitch - get underneath with a wire brush and give it some stick

you will have a better idea then

and then give everywhere a good prod - no point sending it in for welding to find it fails the MOT on some weak stuff you have missed

TiddlesRX7 · March 07, 2009, 04:37:34 PM

Thats nothing. Just get it welded up. I have just had mine done almost the full length of the drivers side inner sill and several bits on the passenger side too. Cost me Â£250 all in. The hole will be bigger than you can see now, but its fixable no problem to someone who knows welding cars.

pdtaylor18 · March 07, 2009, 07:00:57 PM

So glad I have JDM cars as none of them have any rust. Its a shame really as the UK cars really do rust, the three cabs i have scrapped were just horrendous. Preventative measures every year are always worth while and the only way is to give the car a good prod in all the usual places Mitch, I have a welder you are most welcome to borrow,its a mig welder and perfect for your job, just need to buy the gas from Halfords or similar outlet. The one thing to remember though is that if there is rust in that place then very highly likely you will have some more somewhere else,it may not be a sbad but at least you can clean it all up and coat it in waxoyle. I have sprayed my underneath with stone chip guard, works just a well but i have sprayed waxoyle in the places that are hidden and known water traps.