Fuel swirl pots: opinions on safety!?

[Archbish]

I suppose it depends what you want your car for.  I\'ve got the swirlpot for the first gen under the car, near the fuel tank.

[rx jamie]

it will last long enough for me to get out and thats enough for anyone. hell thats what kevlar suits are for they arent fire proof they just let you have enough time to get out if your really stuck, and if you really are stuck then your sweat boils in the fire and cooks you in the suit.

 polycarb isnt flammable after all, however it does melt well but takes a while.  i was running without it before. i only put it in because scrutineering remembered they had remeinded me at a previous drag racing event to put a minimum polycarb screen up. i can hardly see me having a terrible off on a quarter mile tbh.
yes a pipe may pop off the fuel pump and spray fuel in the boot, but im sure i\'ll notice that in my rear view and rip the kill switch out. but it needs an ignition source to ignite anyway.
its all if and buts though isnt it. if you want a totally safe car then just walk,but you could get hit by a bus ? so feck it just stay in ? ah no house fire?

[rx jamie]

another option

http://www.rhdjapan.com/jdm-low/FEED-Intank-Collector-Tank-FD3S-RX-7-51683

[NurburgRob]

I get fuel starvation on the Nurburgring, car just gives a long hearty cough then back on it,  not good for her so I\'m interested to see where this thread goes   I also like my boot and general \'tourer\' style of my motor.

[TonyC]

My swirl pot is (was) mounted in the rear passenger bin, sealed in an alluminium box (along with the filter and bosch 044). Fuul feed lines come through a hole in the body work to meet up with the fuel hard lines. The box was mounted by the sill and the main roll hoop struts so it would be very difficult to deform the box in an shunt. It was sealed up with a high temp, petrol resistance silcone sealent.
But it did surge in races, and max in the orange car has just fitted a 5 litre (!) swirl pot to try and cure the same problem in his car - so it can happen.

My swirl pot and some of the fuel lines will be up for sale shortly.

[mx1311]

reworx also do a bolt in replacement to the stock charcoal canister, i have one of these with a stock pump for lift and an 044 and never had issues on the track or strip even with the fuel light on

colum

[BlitzBoy]

Same here thats what swirl pot I have with an Apexi BNR as the lift pump with two 044 pumps one feeding the primary rail one feeding the secondary.
I think the design or shape of the swirl pot is important, tall and thin is ideal rather then short and fat. If you imagine this proper racers taking long high G bends the correct shape will prevent the fuel sloshing to one side of the pot therefore the outlet holes will always be covered with fuel and never exposed

[Mazdarotaryparts]

I have long made it know about my horrific fear for the guys who put a pressurised fuel system in the the car without a fire proof bulkhead to protect them, a search will show this,

Yes we offer a swirl pot to keep the fuel under the car but over the winter we developed and tested a system that allows you to operate a Bosch 044 in the tank with out any surge or feed issues,

Some of you know that Dave H G runs a big turbo with 850\'s and 1600\'s so he was a good "guinea pig" for us,

We are now able to offer non return valves that go in to the tank, one in each corner on a "T"  piece to the pump and quite simply when one valve sees no fuel it then sucks from the other,

These are patented valves designed initially for Snow Skidoo\'s that need to have fuel delivered from ludicrous angles however what  interested me more was that that most of the top works WRC rally cars use exactly this same valve  to ensure they do not have fuel starvation problems,

Dave has run these valves in tank with an 044 now for the last few months and even reports that because these valves sit right on the bottom of the tank that he has actually run the tank bone dry till the engine has stopped!,

Although a bit fiddly to fit, at £34 plus vat each these offer a very good way of having an adiquate fuel delivery at all times with no baffling or exterior tanks, safely

[shaunwil]

Would you be able to offer a kit of bits ??

Shaun

[Mazdarotaryparts]

Would you be able to offer a kit of bits ??

Shaun

Hi Shaun,

Financialy it would not be viable for us to make this into a kit however an avid DIY\'er like you will have no problem plumbing these in :Viking

We will get these up on our shop over the next couple of days,

[lockwood77]

This is great info guys, thanks. :Thumbs-up

[Smifta]

Although a bit fiddly to fit, at £34 plus vat each these offer a very good way of having an adiquate fuel delivery at all times with no baffling or exterior tanks, safely

Could this really be the golden bullet we have ALL been looking for for all these years?

Sign me up!

[RobMatthews]

how exactly would you fit these in the tank surely you have to cut open the tank?

[M@r]{]

Just seen this, sounds good!  As a complete mechanical numpty do I have a hope in hell of fitting this myself?  Or fabricating whatever needs doing to use this?  

We are now able to offer non return valves that go in to the tank, one in each corner on a "T"  piece to the pump and quite simply when one valve sees no fuel it then sucks from the other,

These are patented valves designed initially for Snow Skidoo\'s that need to have fuel delivered from ludicrous angles however what  interested me more was that that most of the top works WRC rally cars use exactly this same valve  to ensure they do not have fuel starvation problems,

Dave has run these valves in tank with an 044 now for the last few months and even reports that because these valves sit right on the bottom of the tank that he has actually run the tank bone dry till the engine has stopped!,

Although a bit fiddly to fit, at £34 plus vat each these offer a very good way of having an adiquate fuel delivery at all times with no baffling or exterior tanks, safely

[shaunwil]

how exactly would you fit these in the tank surely you have to cut open the tank?

Would have thought the hole in the top is big enough to get your arm into the tank ! Depends on how the baffles are arranged !

Shaun