my new FD , GUTTED

[funkybiznes]

Hey guys,
 
I was due to pick up my new FD tomorrow,swapped for my 2002 ducati 748 and as usual things have gone wrong. All has been well over xmas struck a deal with the seller and had everything sorted. He got it MOT`d , taxed and put 4 new tyres on her. Top bloke.
 
Then the usual happened.....
 
0830- phone call to say the car had developed a problem.(would get back to me)
0945- Phones to explain- Car runs perfect on startup and tickover. all guages fine no smoke oil pressure good. He then goes for a spin to check all is running sweet and loses power after 4k revs!!!!!
 
coughing and spluttering......
 
He is looking into getting to the bottom of the problem, however i want your honest opinion, does this sound like its thrown a tip or do you think this is more of easy fix,( popped pipe etc. I have been told the ECU can go abit hey wire on a standard car in the cold, but this is running a knight 4 beat ECU, Hks pulse monitor etc.
 
Guys i need your help on this as i really cant be arsed to go through the process of trying to sell my bike again( timewasters) and im sure my seller is in the same boat aswe both were chuffed with our deal.
 
Really want my FD to be ok,
 
HELP
 
BREN

[HaywardRotary]

It might have just gone onto default.
The ecu does this when it feels it needs to protect the engine,it is a limp home mode that enables the car to run and start to get you home or to a tuning shop but not make real power.
Regards
Carl

[chrisJDM]

is it still running on twins? chances are if it still on twins its a problem with the turbos loosing boost thats why power goes over 4k, alot of standard twins suffer boost issues due to the complicated system, could be a split pipe or solenoid problem

if the guy says the car starts fine, tickover is fine and no smoke or anything the only problem is power loss over a certain rpm then i dont think its very likely to be a thrown tip or cracked tip or anything like that

[funkybiznes]

cheers guys, he going through the rats nest as we speak. going to find out later if he has solved the problem., just a real worry as ive ordered half the world for the car. and have obviously jinxed myself.
 
Will let you know how it turns out, I appreciate your advuce, any more info will be gladly taken

[NurburgRob]

ASk him to get it looked at by one of the tuning companies to give you piece of mind, I wouldn\'t buy it without the all clear from someone in the know.

Better to be safe than sorry mate.

[funkybiznes]

yea mate , understood, im trying to find a decent rotary tuner in swansea area at the moment so he can take it for a look. Im in bloody reading and off away for three weeks, really didnt want to miss out on the  deal. but i may have to let this one go..
 
gutted..

[interloper393]

i think with a thrown tip its thd oppsit isnt it? lumpy idle up to about 1500rpm then it drives ok after that?

[skybusr34]

i think with a thrown tip its thd oppsit isnt it? lumpy idle up to about 1500rpm then it drives ok after that?

thats what i thought also.. not a pro but it dont sound serious.

[funkybiznes]

cheers guys will keep you posted, hopefully all will turn out fine, otherwise im gonna a have a nece new bodykit sat here doing nothing for a while.
 
Arrives from the states in 5 days..
 
sucha pain in th ass!!!

[gandyRX]

hope it all goes well mate keep us posted

[karl_tate]

doesnt the secondary turbo along with injectors start to work at 4k??

i would also get it checked over by a rotary specialist before doing any deal TBH.

hope all goes well.

[Bobbit]

thats right Karl, the 2nd tubby starts to spool at 4k, sounds like a rats nest or solenoid prob. have a look here fella: clicky
Might help with dignostics if you can send it to the seller

[funkybiznes]

cheers again guys, ive just spoke to the seller, he had a mechanic look at it but didnt know rotary systems and then got told by another garage not to touch rotary, go figure.
 
Hes checking the rats nest again. H has explained the symptoms alot better this time too. Drives fine though cant create any boost. when he hits the gas too hard the power dives off,especially when he hits hills.( worst thing is she is gleaming for her year. not a mark and interior is perfect.) random... to me ive had plenty of turbos. its just annoying that im not there, as i could probably fault find , but i imagine looking at the rats nest is quite daunting for a novice mechanic....
 
pROBLEM IM FACING IS THAT THE SELLER IS BASED IN SWANSEA AND DOESNT KNOW ANY ONE OR WHERE THERE IS A DECENT GARAGE THAT CAN DEAL WITH ROTARY ENGINES DOWN THERE. im quite lucky as im in reading, but this doesnt help in this situation..when i do get her ill book her staright into rotecknics or hayward for a full diagnostic.
 
cheera again though guys. couldnt ask for better advice.

[M@r]{]

I\'m not great with the west of the UK but isnt Dragon Performance not too much of a trek from Swansea?

And look on the bright side mate - you may have actually of been quite lucky, a lot of new owners get a problem after the deal is done and get stuck with having to deal with it.  Fingers crossed though, hope its something simple and it gets sorted asap for you

[clive]

From what you have said I have to presume this car has a boost gauge and it\'s seeing boost on one turbo and none on the second,

If so and the engine is nice and smooth even though it\'s not boosting on the second a few things spring to mind that are simple fixes,

First tell the guy to look at the black plastic box, middle top of the engine in front of the strut bar and he will see two small  pipes on the side and if one of these is off then no second turbo,

Second is if the car is not seeing 7 or 8 psi on the first turbo the car will not go onto the second turbo and will just rev out like a normaly assperated engine,

If this is the case look for a split pipe particualy if it has a stock intercooler take off and look at the lower intercooler pipe

Next up is to check that the rods are still connected from the actuators to the turbo as the rods are only held on by tiny circlips that actualy can rot away letting the rod fall of and then you have no boost.  

All of the above can be checked by any goodish DIY guy,

If not any of the above, yes then think about a specialist but try the above first    

Hope this helps