Help - Car won\'t start....

Started by mark-ashley, December 07, 2008, 01:29:37 PM

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jackaleks

i\'m not sure about mechanics in the SE London area, but if you can get a tow down to north Kent you\'ve got Shy Auto and Rotaryart. Either of those guys should be more than able to find the problem.

mark-ashley

I have mailed Clive as I think I have got to the point now where I need some proper help. All the symptoms point to flooding but I\'ve tried everything you can try to get a flooded car going and still no joy.
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steven_c

let us know the out come with this mate good look,

mark-ashley

I will do, all i want for christmas is a working FD, doubt santa will get that down the chimney, but if he turns up with some tools he can crack on !
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BlitzBoy

sounds like Water seals in the engine matey, it will never start if there is water in the housings
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mark-ashley

I don\'t think it\'s that as i know what i did before hand would have caused it to flood which is why i am convinved it flooded, start from cold for about 30 seconds and then shut of the engine, deffo flooded me thinks...
 
Bloody hope it\'s not water in the seals, that\'s a rebuild isn\'t it ?
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nikp

If there is definitely coolant in the filler neck, then likely is that the problem lies in the wiring and not low coolant. All the coolant alarm is is a circuit that is earthed using the coolant - so if the circuit is split at any point, you will get the alarm regardless of whether there is coolant or not.

A common problem with freshly installed engines is the coolant circuit wiring behind the power steering pump not being put back together. There\'s 4 electrical plugs: 2 for the coolant, and 2 for the air con. These can easily get muddled up, or even missed. Check those.

FEED Rocket

I had the same problem with mine. Coolant buzzer kept going off due to the air pockets being created from air getting into the coolant system. After that i got the constant flooding problem to the point where i had to keep tow starting the car to get it going. Finally when the car was running it would run like a dream for about 70-80 miles and proceed to dump all its coolant out of the overflow tank. This was obviously due to the air from the engine pressurising the coolant system and of course the non starting was due to the water/coolant getting into the engine.
 
In short it was my water seals which are soon to be replaced hopefully just after the new year. If you need more advice on the problem or on getting a rebuild done gimme a call on 07792716026 or email me at anthony@rotarysolutions.co.uk

mark-ashley

Nice one, Clive is coming to have look at the car on Thursday which is very nice of him, if he can\'t get it going, nobody can !
 
I\'ve had a look at the temp sensor and from the filler cap to the conenctor at the end of the wire all looks good, however, where this connects to a cable that dissappears off into the engine somewhere, the connector has loads of corrosion on it so i\'m thinking that maybe it\'s not connecting there properly, when Clive comes over on Thursday i\'m going to bridge that connection and see if it stops the annoying alarming, it did do it before but then settled down....
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mark-ashley

Nikp, i doubt very much it is a plug mix up as these haven\'t been touched since i bought the car, i\'ve not had a new engine unless someone popped one in without me noticing so i think that the problem is going to lie with either a dodgy connection or the waterseals, boo.....
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FEED Rocket

Fingers crossed for you matey. :)

Sideways_Steve

when my last one flodded due to the PFC dying the only way i was able to get it restarted was removing the fuel pump relay then towing it and bump starting it at 50mph !!!

Scary yes but it worked, it took a damn long time to get it to start running properly after that though!

I deflooded it every other way you could think of but in the end bumping it from that speed was the only thing that worked. It wouldnt even bump from 30mph or 40mph

Sounds very like its flooded big time as mine was mate.

As for the buzzer, there is a SINGLE wire that runs down where the spark plugs are for that buzzer sensor, the previous owner of mine managed to damage it when changing the plugs and thats why it was coming on, I had a nightmare of a job trying to reconnect it down in that space!

Deffo worth checking that its still intact especially as you say its had the plugs done etc as this is when you normally catch the wire and pull it from its connector !

steven_c

why are these cars flooding, really not looking forward to this happening to often on mine
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Sideways_Steve

it can be a number fo reasons mate, cold weather, crap plugs, fuel map too rich, cold start issues.

its just one of these things, my new one done it the other day but I was lucky and managed to catch it before it completely flooded!

Will66

Flooding happens with the RX8 too, it\'s generally cost of too much fuel stopping the spark.  It has also happened on the Porsche Boxster too!
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