nasty blowout (dont look if damaged rexs cuz pain lol) :( ...

Started by Johnerz, October 24, 2008, 08:26:53 PM

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Johnerz

on my way to a mates to sort a few things for mot, came off a roundabout and thought it was just a slight slide in the wet till i realised i couldnt control it and it went wild and ended up on the centre grass divider. was honestly only doin about 35 and it was a goodyear F1 that blew out.  the roundaabout is at the top of the first pic where that silver car is coming into view. so i got a few good spins in lol




1997 FD3S Type RS

FDAsh

To be honest that could have been much worse. At triple figure speeds etc you might not have been posting this.

Hope you get it fixed up soon mate.

allstaruk

Mate that was a lucky escape, glad to hear no one was hurt, has it done much damage?

Johnerz

only the wheel which is now a plant pot lol, my mate has a pit at his so we had a good look round underneath and there is no suspension or steering damage, but his dad is going to have anoth look just to make sure.  its a real pain in the hole cuz a load of nice parts ive ordered are now for sale so i can get a replacement rear or a new set of nice wheels.
1997 FD3S Type RS

shaunwil

How old was the tyre ? They degrade with age. Best check all tyres for any cracking / aging !

Shaun
1994 White FD with A-spec GT3574R - 358bhp at the hubs at 0.9bar :3gears-lh
2003 Mondeo 2lt 130ps Diesel Estate Daily :driving

FDAsh

Seems a weird "blowout" looking at the last pic... was it seated correctly?

SiH

Quote from: FDAsh;547522Seems a weird "blowout" looking at the last pic... was it seated correctly?

Thjat\'s what i was thinking - it looks like the bead has popped off the rim rather than the tyre blown out?

Glad you\'re ok dude, could have been nasty.

Johnerz

tyres only have about 1500 miles max on them, its not driven often but im really obsessive about tyre pressure, oil, fluids, all that.  guess its just one of those things!  

yeah, someone else said that about how the tyre ended up. im sure someone will have a better idea from looking at it
1997 FD3S Type RS

SiH

Is there any white/black powder on the inside of the tyre?
Any ripples on the sidewall?
Any visible tears on the tyre?

Johnerz

the tyre is still as is is in the pic mate, ill be taking it off tomorrow and having a proper look.  what would the powder indicate? i dont know much about tyres to be honest.
1997 FD3S Type RS

Nik da Greek

That\'s nasty to look at, dude, but good that you\'re ok and the car isn\'t totally fubar. I wrote off my last one following a spin (or two, lol) on Goodyear F1s. Never really found out why, whether it was the wet, the tyres, the second turbo switchover, or a combination of all three. Three of the tyres were flat afterwards, and one wheel had shattered, so it was hard to tell if any had blown to cause the accident. The copper who turned up suggested it mighta been, but it\'s just as likely to have been my crap driving tbh! I\'ve not used Goodyears since, mind you :D...just in case!

SiH

Powdery stuff indicates low pressure usually - i.e. you had a flat beforehand, didn\'t realise, the tyre went down, stressed the sidewall, and blew.

That doesn\'t really look like it\'s \'blown\' though - looks like the beads popped off the lip, that\'s what\'s confusing me - I\'m wondering if the tyre fitter may have ****ed up...

FDAsh

I had new rubber on mine recently, Michelins, one was fine and the other had a huge lump in the bead. That got sent back straight away by my tyre guy as it could pop off. If yours was similar and still fitted, it could be the tyre at fault.

Whilst I deplore "compensation culture", if it is down to a manufacturing fault you\'d surely have a decent case for recovering the cost of the damage. Good thing you took pics if so.

Johnerz

nik - ive read many of your posts and it does seem that dont have much luck with these motors lol!  im more glad that it was quiet at that time as theres a school playing field near there

sih/ash - thats why i want a few more people to look at the tyre and the wheel itself. beads and all that i know nothing but have friends that do.  i took loads of pics. so not ruling out contacting goodyear or the place that fitted the tyres. id be happy with a replacement tyre from goodyear though, if it was a fault on their end.  the tyrefitting place might be different tho
1997 FD3S Type RS

Nik da Greek

Haha, yeah, I\'ve always been lucky. Sorry about all the rubbish posts you\'ve had to wade through :Giggle!

I guess you may just get Goodyear to admit a liability if someone professionally examines the tyre and can categorically say "yes, the bead gave way and caused the tyre to come unseated" or "yes, it de-laminated" or similar, but it does seem a long shot. I think you\'d have a cats chance in hell of getting the tyre fitters to admit they dropped a b0ll0ck, though

It does look strange in that photo, though, but I guess there\'s an argument to say there could have been a compression blowout caused by hitting a kerb or whatever whilst spinning, and the lateral forces subsequent to that have pulled the tyre off the rim. Not trying to be negative, just trying to be realistic, and unfortunately we live in a day and age where a company would do anything and blame anything rather than admit liability for something like this.