Anyone have pix of an engine torque damper fitted?

Started by probedb, June 28, 2008, 05:00:48 PM

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probedb

Well what a load of poop. The damper in mine had no play in it what so ever due to having a nice big lump of plastic inside it. When this is removed there\'s so little force required to do move it that there\'s no way it can do it\'s job.

Anyone know if the Feed one/other decent ones use a proper damper?

danny_m94

from what i have heard a lot of these are in no way a damper just a solid bar made to look like a damper i think the more expensive ons are though

RemarkLima

I\'ve got the expensive FEED one, I did think it was a lot of money for the extra sticker on the case! But it\'s definately a proper (I\'m guess gas filled) damper... Very stiff mind, but certainly a damper.
Montego Blue 94 R2 FD3S... Bling not included.

NurburgRob

I\'ve got the FEED one too, it\'s just nylon bushes in a tube!  it is very hard to move by hand and definitely reduces engine movement and gear changes seem smoother.

I fitted mine with nylon washers between the cylinder and the brackets (cheap from halfrauds) to reduce vibration and it worked a treat.  You still need to tighten it occasionally to stop it rattling.

Attach it under the bracket on the body or it will foul your bonnet.
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RemarkLima

Hmmm... Think I\'d better check mine again... It\'s been a while since I\'ve even had my car anywhere near me!
Montego Blue 94 R2 FD3S... Bling not included.

probedb

Thanks guys...I\'ve fitted mine but it doesn\'t seem to have made any difference.

Nik da Greek

All the ones I\'ve seen for the FD just use the nylon bush friction type dampers. They are very stiff, you\'d be lucky or superhuman to move one by hand, but the sort of torque reaction the engine puts through them is altogether a greater force than you\'d manage by hand. If you really care, I guess a proper oil and shim damper like a bike-style steering damper could be used instead http://www.demon-tweeks.co.uk/products/ProductDetail.asp?cls=MCYCLE&pcode=PPASD-50B
 (likev these). Basically the same as a tiny suspension unit, the more torque you put into them, the harder they resist. Not a cheap upgrade, though! Plus, I\'m not sure that the volcanic heat under the bonnet of an FD would be very good for the damping consistency of the oil

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Nik da Greek

Quote from: RobbieRX-7;514849Or use a mountain bike damper

Not a bad idea, that! Would it be man enough to cope with the forces, or would it just flubber about helplessly, though?

probedb

My problem was that because the damper had no give I couldn\'t fit it as it was out by about 0.5cm and I couldn\'t move it or the engine enough to get a fit.

Nik da Greek

You should be able to get a bit of length adjustment using the locknut and adjuster on one end of the damper body, 5 mil shouldn\'t be impossible to get, hopefully!

probedb

Quote from: Nik da Greek;514933You should be able to get a bit of length adjustment using the locknut and adjuster on one end of the damper body, 5 mil shouldn\'t be impossible to get, hopefully!

Unfortunately it was, everything would as tight as possible and still wouldn\'t fit. It\'s done now tho, not making any difference from what I can tell tho.

FEED Addict

Here is my Feed one, seen here fitted to a BLUE car!!:wiggle

NurburgRob

You should be able to lengthen it slightly at the cylinder end, I think the eyelet screws in and out and there is a locking nut?  I made sure mine was the correct width before fitting it.

Try it!
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Jonathan_F

All, I have been told by two big tuners that these often do very little and can rip the bulkhead away.

I used a motorcycle steering damper mounted off the double skinned bulkhead near the upper RHS front wishbone across to the air pump lower mount bracket (no air pump on mine). I found this very noticably effective, greatly improving my launch control and my 60ft time dropped from by 0.2. I later found a perforated LHS engine mount, so my vehicle wasn\'t in a perfect state to begin with. Mounting towards the from of the engine will better counter yaw in the engine as it torques about the brace between the gearbox and differential. No noticeable vibration, just smoothed torque impulses as the wheels broke traction allowing better modulation of the throttle. (it was a Triumph Daytona steering damper, £10 from a breaker)

Regards, Jonathan