Are our cars that fast ?

[eatmyrx7dust]

Scooby Si...I\'d just stick to looking for a wife !! I\'ve seen what you look like !

[sadgoth]

only person i can think of who could be quicker at rotorstock is Ross, he\'d only just finished his car and clocked 11.6 secs, so by rotorstock might be quicker!!!

At the risk of being flamed by Ross here, Tim\'s Gen 1 did 11.9 and it was running without NOS or water injection (both of which I believe are now in place) also the turbo was on it\'s way out, now rectified. I may be in for some slaps, but I\'d say that Tim\'s car could drop into the 10s! Not bad for a 22 year old car I say!

[20B_boy]

Originally posted by sadgoth
I\'d say that Tim\'s car could drop into the 10s!

Hell yeah!

[gsb876]

I guess it all comes down to money in the end, if you have a decent base car to begin with and have the money to fund a project then anythings possible.

If i had the funds would i race the strip??? damn right i would:rollin  but wont risk damaging car without major funds to back up problems.

[Carl]

Originally posted by gsb876
I guess it all comes down to money in the end, if you have a decent base car to begin with and have the money to fund a project then anythings possible.

If i had the funds would i race the strip??? damn right i would:rollin  but wont risk damaging car without major funds to back up problems.

Quite right in my opinion too.
Kind regards
Carl

[scooby_si]

ooohhh eatmy (Si engages papa lazarou mode which will confuss even more of u than normal if you never watched league of gentlemen) YOUR MY WIFE NOW!!!!! lol
Si (scary but strangely appealing.... lol)

[Schtoo]

Of extremely fast (as opposed to just very fast) rotary engined vehicles is not just one person having enough cash to throw at one.

It\'s three fold.

1: Convetional egines are more prevalent, several times more prevalent. So most development money goes into makig them work better, wether it be better economy or more power, it\'s not just company A investing $XXX while company B invests $XXX in something else, it\'s Companies A,B,C,D,E,F,G,H... investing their cash in developing the reciprocal piston engine. Meanwhile, you have Company M investing $X on the rotary engine at the manufacturer level. FWIW I would think that Mazda invests significantly more $$$ in piston engines than the rotary engine, gotta make the bread somehow.

2. The rotary engine is effectively banned form most forms of motorsport. Why? Probably because if given half a chance, it will happily run away from most anything else. It\'s not conventional, it doesn\'t fit in the rules set for other engines so ban it! As a result, very little motorsport capital is invested in the rotary engine. Yet another area where cash is spent to glean that extra horsepower. Even the engine budget for one year in an F1 team would work wonders for the Wankel. If it were an ongoing commitment, a 1,000hp RX-7 would not be even the slightest bit unusual, in fact it might become old hat.

3. The RX-7 is not destined to be a mega-horsepower animal. None of the rotary engines animals are destined to be big HP monsters.  Having driven a standard R32 GT-R then a 700hp one immediately after it, well, it turned a grocery getter into a knuckle dragging neanderthal. Sure it was stupid quick, and you would still have to try really hard (or be a complete dolt) to make it go ugly, but finesse was definitly not it\'s forte. And it felt heavy to boot, pretty strange when dealing with an AWD car, but adding all the extra power, plus the drivetrain to cope, brakes to stop it and all the things to maintain the hp added something and took away any edge. Would I own a Skyline and take it over 500hp? Is a the Pope a catholic? Sure, it was a bludgeon, but it\'s nice to have the biggest bludgeon on the block.

The 7 as a rule is not comparable. This might just be my opinion, but getting over 500hp in a 7 means some pretty serious surgery if you want to have and keep that power for more than a few hundred miles. The little 13B just can\'t keep up that kinda output without losing precious hours off it\'s life. Sure, you can get the big numbers, but it\'s not going to hold together as long as a Supra with the same hp. Have a 26B, and you could drag 1,000 hp out of the thing and it would probably make the 1000hp Supra look like a shooting star.

And it all boils back to where the development $$$ are spent. Right now, the Wankel doesn\'t have all that time and effort invested to make it tick in a big way. Maybe in a few years, that knowledge will be found and the lowly little Rotary will be able to make anything quiver with fear, but not right now. Sure, it makes most things out there in the big bad world take notice and pay the due respect, but there\'s always going to be that big Skyline or Supra, maybe the quick Sylvia or WRX that will whack the 7 down a notch. It\'s not a bad thing.

After all, even the fastest vehicle has to turn a corner as some point...

BTW, I always wonder how an extra 10mm of width on each rotor would affect things. Or maybe lose 10-20mm, but add extra rotors to compensate. Maybe a 5 rotor with 50mm wide rotors. a Twin with 100mm wide rotors. Maybe larger housings for a \'big block\'.

I also wonder what something with 4 or more rotrs, PP and packing big capacity per rotor would behave like. Say a 4 rotor with 4,000cc. It would have to be something that most anything would be afraid of.

Just thinking out loud.

P.S. Been driving around in a Honda Torneo. Kinda like a small Accord. I think I like it. I NEED TO GET A ^%$&^&% CAR RIGHT &$^%$^&^% NOW G@D DAMMIT!!!

[gsb876]

Very good points there Schtoo, most cars on the road are wary of the rx7, when it comes to 1/4 shoots outs we normally take the back seat.

Still i\'ve not been beaten on the road yet!!!! 460bhp.