Taking FC to 500+BHP

Started by maz13b, April 28, 2008, 09:20:34 PM

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maz13b

I know for fact that taking an FC to 500bhp is alot cheaper then doing the same with FD.

Could anyone please provide short or long list of parts that would need to go on the car and modifications to the engine in order to get my FC to that kind of power.  

I have only started to learn about tunning and I know it might be hard to do but I am planning on doing most of the work myself. This is not because of the money shortage but more for me to learn how to do it, so I would appretiate any advise or help I can get from MRC members.

Thanks

Maz13b

Brett

Big turbo
Large ports
Large fuel pump(s) & associated regulators etc
High flow injectors
Bigger ignition modules
Big intercooler
Water injection
Beefed up clutch
decent diff
Decent ECU (Microtech)
New loom
New cooling system (V mount with IC? Speak to AntnikUK)
etc
etc
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BlitzBoy

lol I wouldnt say a lot cheaper, I would say the same cost
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old spec HB T51 470 @ wheels @ 1.2 BAR, 555 @ fly 10.46 @ 130 @ 1.25 Bar
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maz13b

Thanks for the quick reply.

Big turbo   would Greddy TD06 do the job?

Large ports     bridge porting or street porting? any thoughts on where to get the template for that?

Large fuel pump(s) & associated regulators etc
High flow injectors
http://www.rx7store.net/product_p/extremefuel.htm would that be enough?

Bigger ignition modules Any links or name for this unit?

Big intercooler Greddy
Would Greddy 3 Row FMIC 86-91 RX-7 do the job?

Water injection ???

Beefed up clutch
got that

decent diff
got that

Decent ECU (Microtech)
which one? http://www.microtech-efi.com/category/1.html

New loom New engine loom? any thoughts on where to get that or easier to make a new one?

New cooling system (V mount with IC? Speak to AntnikUK)
will do

etc what else?
etc What else? :)

Thanks.

Sorry for so many questions :)

maz13b

This whole concept is to learn how to do it. Money isnt an issue but at the same time I am trying to find the affordable way of doing this because this isnt the last fc I am planning to have.

BlitzBoy

TD06 too small, you need a T04R or T78
"Piston Killa" 3rd Gen\'94 \'Oldone Racing Full Bridge Ported REW 13b engine with SCR seals\'. HKS T51 KAI turbo BBM mapped Motec ECU

JDS/HKS Street Class Championship Runner up 2011
Rotorstock winner 08,09
http://pistonkilla.blogspot.com/
old spec HB T51 470 @ wheels @ 1.2 BAR, 555 @ fly 10.46 @ 130 @ 1.25 Bar
new spec FB T51 482 @ wheels @ 1.15 BAR, 570 @ fly

New Project
"el fénix" RX2 by Mark & Mark

Brett

Speak to any of the big bhp guys on here, they will set you straight.

AntnikUK
Sadgoth
Blitzboy
etc

Plus the tuners :)
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BlitzBoy

In regards to porting, get one Tuners on here or WGT,Reworx etc to port ya plates a lot easier and u will get results, a nice big street port will give porting for 500
"Piston Killa" 3rd Gen\'94 \'Oldone Racing Full Bridge Ported REW 13b engine with SCR seals\'. HKS T51 KAI turbo BBM mapped Motec ECU

JDS/HKS Street Class Championship Runner up 2011
Rotorstock winner 08,09
http://pistonkilla.blogspot.com/
old spec HB T51 470 @ wheels @ 1.2 BAR, 555 @ fly 10.46 @ 130 @ 1.25 Bar
new spec FB T51 482 @ wheels @ 1.15 BAR, 570 @ fly

New Project
"el fénix" RX2 by Mark & Mark

Ed_RX7

I would say speak to chris at reworx he git his Fc to more than that at the fly i believe.....think it was about 450rwhp so about 540 fly
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antnicuk

chris actually saw 600 fly, 500 rwhp, but i would suggest that his set up would not be suitable for someone with no experience.

It will cost you the same to do an FC as it will an FD as most of the parts you need will be FD.

The ignition should be ok if your coils are good, if not, get the coil packs that microtec supply. The microtec comes with its own engine loom.

I had 1680 cc secondary injectors, 550 primaries on an 044 pump with plenty of scope for more power.

It looks to me like you are tryin to buy off the shelf stuff. If so, you would be better off using an FD as you can buy off thr shelf items to get the power you want.  With the FC you cant. There is a lot of fabrication of exhausts, downpipes, manifolds, V mounts,fuel rails etc.  Nothing on my FC was bolt on for the FC. Everything was made to fit from something else.

To make sure you get the power, i would say go half bridge, but it can be done on a street port. I had 460 fly with a medium street port.
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sadgoth

TD06 is too small

Mine should be seeing about 450 at the fly with a GT4088, and a big half bridge

Microtech wise, either the LT8s or the LT10s the 8 uses the stock coils the LT10s comes with uprated coils and a seperate ignitor module.

for that sort of power turbo-wise I\'d suggest like Blitzboy a T78 or a T04R (the R may not be enough) T88, T04Z or a T51KAI

Other things to look at, you\'ll need an FD water pump, Greddy Compression tube, You may find you have to use more FD parts in the inlet area to enable the level of flow for that kind of power. Have a chat with RX Motors as well, they have done a few big power cars FB,FC and FD
Mark
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1/2 Bridge port   Microtech LT10s   TII Conv Aluminium Bonnet & Leather seats   Koni Shocks Pi Springs   De-catted 3" exhaust  
GT4088 turbo   Walbro fuel pump   1000cc injectors   custom V-Mount   Blitz Boost Controller (ok so the boost controller is still to fit)

Loud? Hell yes! :D

Brett

Does the FD water pump fit the 13BT front plate then?
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sadgoth

not sure how Matt did it, but it is there and I still have a 13bT frontplate
Mark
89 Black FC3S Turbo II
1/2 Bridge port   Microtech LT10s   TII Conv Aluminium Bonnet & Leather seats   Koni Shocks Pi Springs   De-catted 3" exhaust  
GT4088 turbo   Walbro fuel pump   1000cc injectors   custom V-Mount   Blitz Boost Controller (ok so the boost controller is still to fit)

Loud? Hell yes! :D

Brett

Info stored for future reference ;)
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G@NDY

Mine has been in the shop since last june, and just for parts alone. and most of them have been bought second hand or bought at mates rates ;) With a full rebuild and all the stuff has cost nearly £9000. im hoping for around the 500bhp mark.

It isnt cheap matey!!!!!!
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