HKS F-CON V or Power FC

[leeroy_25]

As you may have seen I am rebuilding an RX7 from the ground up. I am new to the rotary engine so picking it up as I go along!
I gather any mods to the engine require ECU mapping to be sure not to damage the rotor tips. I am working on a bit of a budget tunning wise at the moment and want to know if the HKS F-Con V is a good option to get the best out of the car. I only intend to run a few mods to start with. I have an induction kit, a decat pipe, large SMIC and a boost controller. I was intending to remove the airpump when I fit the decat.
I presume I need some sort of aftermarket ECU setup to allow these mods? can I get away with any of them while running a standard ECU? liKe the SMIC?
Where will the F-Con system be limited compared to a power FC?
I gather there is a graphic control system that goes with the F-con unit to enable mapping.. Is this a DIY bit of kit with a bit of knowlegde or strictly for Professional set-up.

all info greatfully received.
Thank you
Lee

[AshRX]

go PFC, more tuners can map it. Apexi will be good for a decent amount of power.

[m1tch]

The power FC seems to be a more popular choice, but the Apexi might go bust soon so i dunno about aftersales service:

http://www.mazdarotaryclub.com/forums/showthread.php?t=24705

[leeroy_25]

I live near Portsmouth.. and I gather from here Re-worx are in that area and they are RX7 gods and HKS agents?! Might give them a call!
I had a Power FC on my Skyline.. cost a lot more and expensive to set-up not sure how that comepares with the HKS set-up? Especially if I am not going to extensively modify it in the near future.. i.e single turbo.

[marco]

i think Reworx will say the fcon pro over the standard fcon, i was quoted 1200 for it including mapping.

[allstaruk]

Go all out MOTEC

[BlitzBoy]

yep Apexi for ease of tuning with a datalogit and wideband connected to it, more tuners out there
or Motec MR2 which is actually cheaper then the FCON plus with the MR2 you can download the software yourself and connect with a laptop just with a serial cable, but complex to use the software then Apexi and datalogit, but the Motec has more features,
I can tune the Apexi and looking to learn the Motec at the mo

[Wombat-007]

If you can afford it, go F-Con Pro, far better piece of kit. Was fortunate to get hold of mine second hand, had if fitted last week by, you guessed it, REWORX and very happy with the results.
These guy\'s are awesome at what they do and I can\'t recomend them enough.
 
Heard too many horror stories of poor components in the apexi\'s giving up the ghost and taking the engine with it!
Guess you get what you pay for, cheap ecu controllers=cheap components.
 
Currently putting out 337.9 fwhp with standard downpipe, hks intake, de cat Racing Beat back box and GReddy boost controller. Only limiting factor was fueling and cooling at ther moment.

[BlitzBoy]

Its only the latest batch of Apexis that have had problems with quality control, before that Apexi was very reliable.
But I would go Motec in terms of money no object for the best ECU on the market for the FD you just cant beat its logging capabilties far better then even FCON

[leeroy_25]

Cheers for the replies!! I am just tyring to get hold of reworx as we speak!

I am limited on budget at the mo othe wise I would porbably go with the power fc as I am familiar with it.. I only asked about the standard F-Con V as that is what I have been offered! How much can you pick up the gold versions for secondhand?

Cheers
Lee

[BlitzBoy]

All depends if you can get the Power FCs brand new at the moment with all Apexi company problems in Japan.
So keep a look out for second hand ones for around £400 on here,
FCon Pro used I have only seen one or two over here they went for around £600-700.
Motec MR2 will cost just under £900 brand new

[AshRX]

Might be selling my V Pro Gold soon if your still looking in about a month month

[BlitzBoy]

ohhh and what ECU you going for?

[AshRX]

ohhh and what ECU you going for?

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[BlitzBoy]

ahh going the Motec route same as me eh lol