Track Day Brake Mod suggestions?

Started by boomin, March 21, 2008, 07:55:39 PM

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boomin

Just got my Rex going after years of it sitting around.  Took it to ROTechnics for all the belts, hoses, once over etc.  In general they said it is good to go.

Have Bedford booked for the 5th of April and was thinking about upgrading the Brake pads.  Any suggestions for something with will work as an everyday driver, but won\'t fade on the track?   never heard good things about green stuff, red stuff etc...  don\'t mind spending a few quid.

Should I consider changing the brake fluid also?  

Thanks,

Fish

I hope you have a standard OE exhaust system, otherwise you\'ll be too loud for Bedford.

Best get your noise levels checked before parting with any money.

Fish

boomin

Quote from: FishI hope you have a standard OE exhaust system, otherwise you\'ll be too loud for Bedford.

Best get your noise levels checked before parting with any money.

Fish

yep.. you just answered a question.  Unfortunately just got my plates today so couldn\'t get it checked.  Last day to get a credit was yesterday.
So i\'m pot committed  Â£199.   My NSX will be fine.. but some last minute work needed on the RX7 with 2 weeks to go.

I\'ve got the standard exhaust, but some ridiculous back-box.  Was going to get noise levels checked.. but will probably just by-pass that as per your comments to get a standard backbox back on.

Do you think Hayward Rotary would be able to sort me out? How easy is it to get a standard exhaust set-up... on the cheap? :)

boomin

This could do it, eh?

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/RX7-FD3S-Kakimoto-Regu-96db-R-Exhaust-System-JDM_W0QQitemZ260221860315QQihZ016QQcategoryZ38786QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

I want to put it in a shop next week anyway to get the brake upgrade and see if there\'s a chance for some simple tuning to increase performance a little.



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Dan Norton

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Change your brake fluid to some Castrol SRF. Its incredible, all the top race teams use it, yes its a bit dear at nearly 40quid a litre (you\'ll prob need 2 litres for a full change and flush through), but you will not have any probs with that stuff in the system.

Pads....always always throws up loads of recomendations.

For a good everyday pad that can be used on track without too much issue\'s is Ferodo DS2500 compound... its been around for quite a while now, but is prob Ferodo\'s bests selling compound.
Its good for fast street cars, its quite soft material and can have a tendancy to leave deposits on discs if worked really really hard (i\'m talking lap after lap after lap on a stop start type circuit).
The DS2500 is prob the best all round performer without braking the bank for some really sh1t hot track dedicated compounds.

Some braided brake hoses always helps with initial bite.

Some cooling tubes to the brakes never goes amiss...if you can rig up some type of flexi pipe from the front bumper through to the wheel arch directed at the top of the calipers, this will also aid you.

All the above could easily be achieved for around 300 quid...and that would be a great upgrade over the oem set-up, and also, the most important thing, it wont ruin your day...theres nothing worse then attending a trackday and experiencing brake fade after a few laps....ive been there and done that!
Turned into the worst part of my life....my precious fd3 has gone, but never forgotten....roll on a new life!!!!

cyman

an alternative to the castrol brake fluid is motul rbf600 a very very good fluid.

Dan Norton

But not ultimately as good as the SRF...put the SRF in once, and you can leave it in there for a whole trackday season without having to bleed / change it.
Turned into the worst part of my life....my precious fd3 has gone, but never forgotten....roll on a new life!!!!

boomin

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Quote from: Dan NortonChange your brake fluid to some Castrol SRF. Its incredible, all the top race teams use it, yes its a bit dear at nearly 40quid a litre (you\'ll prob need 2 litres for a full change and flush through), but you will not have any probs with that stuff in the system.

All the above could easily be achieved for around 300 quid...and that would be a great upgrade over the oem set-up, and also, the most important thing, it wont ruin your day...theres nothing worse then attending a trackday and experiencing brake fade after a few laps....ive been there and done that!

Dan,
I assume this was all a cheap plug as I see you\'re a sales engineer for a brake company.. ;)   just kidding.  
seriously: really appreciate what appears sound advice based on experience.  My Brother is flying out from the US. This is one stop on a whirlwind tour of thrills, so I\'ve got to do my best to ensure it\'s unflawed on the day.  

Can you source all this stuff from the company you work for?  If so, can we get it all going on Tuesday? or even today.

Wala- Next- standard exhaust to deal with noise restrictions at Bedford --
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Mazda-RX7-standard-rear-exhaust-box_W0QQitemZ230233090967QQihZ013QQcategoryZ52640QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

would this be a good thing to get also?
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/RX7-FD3S-silenced-mid-pipe-de-cat-exhaust_W0QQitemZ130207513381QQihZ003QQcategoryZ38786QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

Looking good to have all this sorted within a week!

Papercup

Hawk pads; no contest. You get what you pay for.

jm-garage.co.uk

Project Mu\'s work very well on both track and road. Variuos pads options availible. Also you should swap out the stock brake lines and clutch hose for braided or teflon ones.
 
cheers
James

boomin

Quote from: jm-garage.co.ukProject Mu\'s work very well on both track and road. Variuos pads options availible. Also you should swap out the stock brake lines and clutch hose for braided or teflon ones.
 
cheers
James

How quick could you get Project Mu\'s in for a 03 NSX?
Where in Surrey are you?

jm-garage.co.uk

Ususally as i wouldn\'t keep those in stock they take about 10 days. I would need to check the application on Monday. I assume it just has stock calipers no brembos ect

boomin

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Quote from: jm-garage.co.ukUsusally as i wouldn\'t keep those in stock they take about 10 days. I would need to check the application on Monday. I assume it just has stock calipers no brembos ect

Yep, Need to get something next week as I\'ve got the car booked in for a week from Monday.
My only choice right now seems Dixcel Brake - which I\'ve never heard anything about.  guys on the NSX site swear by the Mu\'s

http://nsxcb.co.uk/testvb/showthread.php?t=4536

Do you think the Dixcels will be good?   ... ah just looked at the link closer "AP Dixcel".  so AP Racing brakes i assume? probably work great on AP discs

*everything stock on my car.

jm-garage.co.uk

I\'m afraid i wouldn\'t be able to comment on the Dixcels as i have had no expericance with them. The Mu\'s are very good without doubt i will see how quick i can get a set for you.
 
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Quote from: boominHave Bedford booked for the 5th of April and was thinking about upgrading the Brake pads.  Any suggestions for something with will work as an everyday driver, but won\'t fade on the track?   never heard good things about green stuff, red stuff etc...  don\'t mind spending a few quid.

Should I consider changing the brake fluid also?  

Thanks,

Hi,

Very pleased to hear that you won\'t use EBC especially as we won\'t sell the nasty stuff for these cars due to what we have witnessed!  

We have been supplying our customers cars with trackday upgrades for the last six years and using this experiance are able to offer you a good Disc, pad, and brake-line package to upgrade the stock brake system into a good track setup that will still work fine on the road.

Alternatively we can offer a complete big brake kit for all four wheels but this will cost a lot more money.

If you would like to follow the link below you will find the Disc\'s, pads and lines on our on-line shop.

http://www.mazdarotaryparts.com/bfd-braking-systemb-272-c.asp

Hope this helps
REgards
Clive

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