Do I want an Apexi pfc?

[Nik da Greek]

Need a bit of help and wisdom on this one, if possible. Ever since getting my first RX three years ago I\'ve been meaning to get an Apexi Pfc fitted and mapped, but something\'s always happened to stop this (such as being lucky enough to smash my original car to smithereens, the birth of our first child, moving house, minor things like that!). My wanting to alter the fueling has more to do with reliability and longevity than wanting to create a massive power monster. The car\'s driven daily all year so the last thing I need is ridiculous power surplus in the rain and sub-zero temperatures, and if I feel the need to set a lap record of Sussex I\'ve got my Kawasaki for that! So the car will be staying on stock twin turbos, but already has an uprated \'zorst and downpipe, though retains the cat, and separate filters.
 
She\'s going in to SuperSeven next week to get the last annoying faults put right that are a hangover from the crash and swaping over the engine into a new car (nothing major, just hose replacement, fixing an oil leak from the dreaded sump gasket and a petrol leak on full boost, yikes!). From that point on I figure she\'ll be a secure enough platform to crack on with the ECU upgrade, cos there\'s been no point trying to set up an incontinent old baggage like she\'s been up till now.
 
The point (finally!) is I\'m no longer sure I have much confidence in an Apexi pfc as the ecu for me. I nearly got one last year just before oblivionising the car, and found that RE:Worx had stopped selling them due to faults and failures. Since then I\'ve heard several rumours of inconsistencies and quality control issues. I gather that the parent company (is it Apexera?) recently went into recievership and have had to sell the Apexi brand off, with the effect that the order I had with an on-line parts firm was cancelled due to stock problems. With all these issues, can I have any confidence in their product, assuming they still even make ecus for the \'92 model? I\'d be grateful if any pfc owners have any experience of any unreliability issues or lack of product support that they could share?
 
The other question all that raises is what is the alternative? HKS F-cons cost twice as much when you add in the cost of the loom, MoTech is probably totally overkill for my needs and hardly any more affordable, GReddy\'s e-Manage seems like a bit of a compromised solution...help!
 
Sorry to blather on so long, but between the two cars they\'ve probably kicked me in the nuts to the tune of 15 grand for what amounts to a more-or-less stock FD TT! The last thing I want after all that is for the damned thing to blow its guts out just when I\'m near to finally getting it sorted. I\'ve always been lucky like that....

[BlitzBoy]

I would go for either two options MicroTech very good value for money, Chris Impey\'s car runs one,  or for a bit more cash but still well under the grand the MR2 version of the MOtec.

Im running a Apexi btw had not had any problems and its been on the car since 2004.

[chopper2k22]

I have suffered the Apexi failiure and ended up with a 2nd rebuild due to the fact the Apexi failed, and lost its map! :reallymad
Must be the newer units Pips had 2 fail on my car
So having gone through the options with Pip at WGT came out with the Greddy emange for basic mods filters, exhaust, IC, injectors it can cope with on twins ,so im trying that out at the mo.
My other option was for microtech but tried the emanage 1st see how things go for a month stick 1000mile on the clock and then go back for a tune up.
Only thing with micro tech is you have to make your mind up if you up grade the coil packs depending on which mircotech you go for and you will have to run premix (2 stroke oil in petrol)

[Nik da Greek]

Thanks for the info, guys. The Microtech sounds like a bit of a faff about. I haven\'t messed around with premix since I had a 250LC. And even then it was like a hand-grenade with the pin out! Not sure I could be bovvered with all that every time I fill up, not sure I understand why the MicroTech makes it necessary, either? I gather the GReddy works like a Dynojet Power Commander on a bike, in that it intercepts the stock ecu signals and sends its own instead? I\'ve always thought that a bit of a compromised way of doing stuff, plus opens all sorts of new avenues for failure, such as electrical interference from other sources. Be interested to hear how it works out for you, Chopper. Maybe MoTech is the best way forward after all, I always thought their stuff was kinda competion spec, so I never really thought of it for road cars. Maybe I\'m wrong!
No-one else got any pearls of wisdom? I seem to be the only one without an aftermarket ECU, someone must be able to point me the right way (other than the two kind gents who already have!)

[RobbieRX-7]

Just keep the stock ecu. The price of petrol is not getting cheaper and in the unlikely event your stock ecu does fail, it\'s only £30 for a used one. Try and get a uk one if you can because it will be programmed to use 95ron fuel safely. Like you said, if you wanna go really fast, you have the bike. You\'ll definitly find once you start modding the car for more power, eventually you\'ll want more and more which costs more and more £££.