For anyone still registered as 2616cc

[wiggy]

Hi all

So for me (who has yet to import one) can I register it when it lands as a 1306cc and they will buy it? A friend of mine owns an import company so he will be doing it for me and I have asked him to register as 1306, will this work better than trying to change it after the event??

cheers

[MikeLMR]

1308cc\'s might be more appropriate

[wiggy]

654x2 = 1306....never was good at maths DOHH!!!!

:rollin hehehe

[scooby_si]

well following up noone called me today so i\'ll be doing some more torment tomorrow http://www.smileycentral.com/?partner=ZSzeb008\' target=\'_blank\'>http://smileys.smileycentral.com/cat/173.gif\' border=0>
In terms of registering it you may get lucky or befriend sum1 at DVLA but i was told by motormall when mine was coming in that about 90% (as i recall) get rego\'d as 2.6 now
Si

[iiyama]

Not that its very constructive, but mine is registered as a 1.3......

Ian

[scooby_si]

i hear gloating isn\'t very attractive lmao
Si (AKA jealous http://www.smileycentral.com/?partner=ZSzeb008\' target=\'_blank\'>http://smileys.smileycentral.com/cat/4/4_6_217.gif\' border=0>)

[WeasleRx7]

My other car\'s registered as a 1.3 too.  

[MikeLMR]

my other car IS a 1.3 :rolleyes:

[scooby_si]

ahh was just getting in a suitable mood for being awkward & then she says she\'s trying to find out more & still chasing it, zee directive, & will get back to me Tuesday if not today................
Si

[MintyFresh]

mine is also registered as a 1995 1300cc Mazda RX7 Coupe.  Not even a mention uf the twin tubbies

[scooby_si]

lol got a call today saying they were still looking into it & it was with the planning department or sumin like that, i did ask if they were planning to try to dig the ellsuive directive out or planning to make a new one to fit the bill but didn\'t get much of a response to that lmao
Si (not holding breath but i\'m enjoying this anyway now......lol)

[Shark]

redirected to this thread (cheers scooby_si)

Have read all that\'s gone before and think I can add to the debate.  I have a 96 import.  Registered with a cylinder capacity of 2616cc (cubic centimetres).  I got the V5 a couple of weeks ago so figure I have a right to challenge it and plan to do so.
The instruction with the document is to review and advise of any incorrect points in accordance with the guidance notes.
The guidance notes would seem to use the term "change" to cover alterations to the vehicle and corrections to the data on the form.  

The term cylinder capacity needs to be defined.  Logically this term is a proxy for displacement in the case of those of us without cylinders.

The arguement from those of us who want to save money:
The volume displacement of one side of a single rotor is 654cc.  The engine has two rotors therefore it is 1308cc

I expect if I can get someone with half a brain that knows anything about rotaries at DVLA, they will argue that whilst one side of the rotor is full of petrol, displacing 654cc, one of the remaining 2 sides is burning petrol of the same displacement.  This would allow for their arguement of considering each rotor as 1308cc.

What I don\'t know (engaging mechanically stupid mode) is how a normal piston engine works and whether this is a fair and consistent application fo the rule.  Help from anyone would be welcome on this point - preferably with enough clear info for me to argue the point.

Gonna try and call them tomorrow, hopefully some helpful sole will post some piston engine info for me by reply before then.

Scooby, can you get the full name of the directive they are referring to?  I\'ll try as well, but if you can get it, post it.  Then we can try and turn up a copy.

Hopefully I\'ll be able to do something quickly as my road tax is due at the end of May!!

[Shark]

Off the Dtf website

The Motor Vehicles (Approval) Regulations 2000

http://www.dft.gov.uk/stellent/groups/dft_roads/documents/downloadable/dft_roads_506814.pdf

\'"rotary piston engine" means an engine in which the torque is provided by means of one or more rotary pistons and not by any reciprocating piston; and any rotary piston engine shall be deemed to be a four stroke engine\'

This mean anything to anyone?

[scooby_si]

i\'lll letcha no how it goes will call them again tomorrow if they haven\'t come back with anything further....
For the directive they mention all i have, & them it would seem by their lack of any knowledge/info on it so far , is what they called it on the letter as mantioned previoulsy "Automotive Exhaust Emissions Directive"
Dont kick up too much fuss till i\'ve had my fun i wouldn\'t want them thinking i was ganging up on them..................lmao
Si

[scooby_si]

lol had another call today saying we\'ve found a man who knows all about the "Automotive exhaust emissions directive" & who you can call & he\'ll give you all the info you need. After a bit of yes but i\'ve already given you evidence of my cc already stuff i took the number.......
PMSL when i called him, not from DVLA & seems he is a chap who delas with manufacturers about approvals & such like but when i started waffling about my rotary engine, CC & the said directive he stopped me & said yer talking in a foreigh language mate means nothing to me! PMSL so checked again he knew nowt about this directive & didnt have a clue what i was on about lmao
So call back to DVLA & said nope he didnt no jack about yer "Directive" followed by an OH lol
Erm well ahhh err let me just see if i can have a word with the planning department.................no right i\'ll need to leave this with the planning department & see what they can find out :rollin
I again state i\'m not really fussed about this as i have already given them evidence & they cant find wot they\'re on about i just want me 1.3........
Anyway calls back not long after & it now seems they\'re going to go to, check with or such like Mazda....
I again start going on about how i\'ve already supplied them with evidence as stated on their paperwork & that while getting from Mazda was one form of proof so was letter from garage which i\'d already done & so surely that was all i needed to do, think i stuck legally in there sumwhere as well which, inbetween a slight sniggers & mentions of tax bands she goes back to her fav line of it\'s just the guide i\'m following & there was something looked at with rotaries. LMAO
Can you tell i was getting defensive when mazda was mentioned as i\'m sure they will come back with the 2.6 thing.
Anyone know the full SP with the "agreement" between mazda & DVLA on this, ie why did they & such like surely mazda gets nothing out of it???
Anyway i\'m going to stick to my guns about already having given necessary evidence for cc alteration etc & we\'ll see how that goes if mazda contradict that...........
Again all as best i can remember it from a wording point of view....
Si