For anyone still registered as 2616cc

Started by MillSpeed, January 30, 2004, 01:17:09 PM

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MillSpeed

Just thought I\'d share my recent experiences in re-registering my imported FD with the correct engine capacity of 1308cc\'s. I started off returning my V5 to the DVLA with the ammended engine capacity. Now since this puts the car in the lower taxation class, they got all excited and wanted to see some proof. There was a list of four or so acceptable forms of evidence to support the change, one of which was a letter from the manufacturer confirming engine size. I recieved a letter from Mazda stating that whilst the capacity of all 13B rotary engines IS 1308cc, due to a long standing agreement with the Department of transport, all RX7\'s officially imported into this country had to be registered at 2x the swept volume (i.e. a government run scam to squeeze more cash out of drivers on the grounds of a technicality). They also informed me that even though my car was privately imported, I would still be required to register my vehicle accoringly. "Bollocks" I thought. Anyway, having already gone to extrordinay lengths required to find the engine number, I decided to explore some of the other options available to me. One other acceptable form of evidence is a letter from a garage on headed paper. Now it just so happens that W.G.T Auto Developments will provide you with such a letter for the paltry sum of £5...money well spent in my opinion. I also chucked in a copy of the Japanese auction certificate for good measure, which showed the capacity as 0.65cc x 2, and robert\'s your father\'s brother, a week later I had a shiny new V5 displaying the correct engine capacity.  So anyone out there still running around registered as 2.6, save yourself £60 a year or whatever it is and get your car re-registered. Don\'t let the bastards scam you!

Shaq

I was looking to do this, but not sure if they will except it?, so all they need is a letter stating proof of the engine capacity from any garage?

i take it WGT auto have issued this letter before to other people so they know what they are saying in the letter ?

Shaq
12.7 on stock twins @ 1 bar (i reckon i can do better!)

davefrith

Has anyone got a insurance company to acknoledge the capacity as 1.3 though ??

My v5 is different to my insurance cos no insurance company on the planet will recognise it as a 1.3

Dave

J4P RX

Sureterm put mine down as 1.3, but it helped that my broker knew exactly what I was talking about so I didnt have to try and explain.

Lee

sbelton

yeah, right pain... mine is registered as a 1300 on the V5 but the insurance company still insists it\'s 2600... how they figure that anyway?? Cheeky buggers.

MillSpeed

Yeah, tried a few rotary specialists, but W.G.T. were the only ones prepaired to provide such a letter.  I e-mailed them the details of my car: Registration, Vin #, Engine # etc. and they sent me back a letter stating
 
"To whom it may concern: this is to confirm that the actual capacity of the engine of the above vehicle is 1308cc".

Talk to Pip Gardner at W.G.T, he\'ll be more than happy to sort you out. If you get the letter before you send back your V5 to the DVLA then they should make the changes without any fuss. I live in Swansea so I actually went into the DVLA head office and handed the documents to the woman who was handling my case. I had my new V5 within a week.

MillSpeed

Will have to give Sureterm a try, they\'re the kit car specialists aren\'t they?

J4P RX

They specialse in a few performance things now I think.  I believe you need to be over 30 now though.

It wont make it cheaper or anything, I just had it for consistency through my documentation.

Lee

l3ggy

..sounds great...can anyone provide me with the contact no. or email address for Pip Gardner at WGT Autos please...

Cheers

scooby_si

http://www.wgtautodevelopments.co.uk/
Address - Unit 5&6, Beaver Center,  Northwich, Cheshire, CW9 8AU.

Tel - (01606) 48866

Fax - (01606) 330004

aha i\'m off to see Pip next week that give\'s me sumin else to torment him for :D lol
Si

jonrx7uk

I have had insurance cancelled in the past due to the V5 saying 1300 cc when asked for by the broker.  
Sureterm sorted me out in the end though...

<Daneh>

im with sureterm, but they still put it down as 2616cc . :(

...reminds me, must ring them about my new wheels.

scooby_si

ARSE http://www.smileycentral.com/?partner=ZSzeb008\' target=\'_blank\'>http://smileys.smileycentral.com/cat/10/10_1_9.gif\' border=0> having done said letter & reg thing from Pip & sending to DVLA while my car is out of action anyway, anyway just got letter back saying as follows:
QuoteDear Mr Watkins,

Thank you for your recent application for notification of a change in the engine capacity.

DVLA has recently sought advice on vehicles powered by rotary engines & how the engine capacity should be recorded for licensing purposes. Based on this advice, the correct capacity for your vehicle is 2616cc. This is calculated from the sum of the swept volumes of each of the rotors in the engine, multiplied by 2. In this case 2 rotors each of 654cc=654x2x2=2616cc. This is defined in the automotive Exhaust Emissions Directive. The supporting evidence you refer to actually quotes the "displacement " as 654ccx2. It is our view that displacement is intended to mean the same as swept volume. It is not the same as cylinder capacity.

I trust this has clarified the position. Your V5 will follow showing the correct engine size as 2616cc.

Yours sincerely...........

BOOGER Sounds like they have quite a lot of "facts" but is there anything i can go back with saying aha but i only need a letter on headed paper saying blah blah or sumin or am i effectively shafted on the 1.3 front? Any budding lawyers out there? http://www.smileycentral.com/?partner=ZSzeb008\' target=\'_blank\'>http://smileys.smileycentral.com/cat/3/3_2_26.gif\' border=0> Do you have it anywhere saying what was acceptable for changes as you say in opening statement?
Cheers folks
Si

scooby_si

do they have a leg to stand on with the dispacement thing, other than yes if they feel like it they make the rules, & WTF is "automotive Exhaust Emissions Directive"??
Si (AKA straw clutcher...)

WeasleRx7

I have no idea on this one, sorry.  But bang goes me registering mine as a 1.3.  :mad: