Painting

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interloper393

yip lol i usually clearcoat everything now, helps protect the paint and reduces fading fae the sun.. i live in scotland so fades not a prob :P
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Ricco_04

Ok good info.  The compressor I have runs at 8bar and comes back on again at 6bar - although I can change this, it has a 50liter tank.  I was told this was more than good enough so just hope it is now! :2Confused :Giggle

Yeah, was reading up on the old where has my paint gone situation, its amazing how much you can get rid of with just compressed air!  I will be removing all the paint and give the remaining primer a match against some 500grit! :evillaugh

I was going to clear coat but forgot to stick it on the list! :Hammer

All good info, thank you gentlemen! :wave

grinder

if you want to be brave you can use a roller and enamal paint - it looks the dogs danglies

i will try and find some info about it :D


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elford_tim

Quote from: Ricco_04Ok good info.  The compressor I have runs at 8bar and comes back on again at 6bar - although I can change this, it has a 50liter tank.  I was told this was more than good enough so just hope it is now! :2Confused :Giggle

The problem with HVLP guns is not the pressure, but the air flow that the compressor needs to supply at a given pressure.

From memory, the SATA minijet 4 I have (which is not a full-size gun but rather a touch-up gun, but works well on the smaller surfaces you find on motorbikes) only needs something like 2-3bar, but it wants a sustained 5 or 6 cfm at that pressure. And suddenly a lot of the smaller compressor struggle - I was advised that I probably needed a 2.5bhp compressor just to run that gun. Which I have yet to buy :(.

I think my neighbours would *really* hate me if I tried to buy a compressor to run a fullsize HVLP gun :D.
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Ricco_04

Quote from: grinderfound it - just have a read of this and look at the pics

http://board.moparts.org/ubbthreads/showflat.php?Cat=0&Number=2331682&page=0&fpart=1&vc=1

Thats really interesting.  I tried to do the same with Hammerite (as I guess it\'s the same as the paint he\'s on about)  I might give it another go using his thinning method and a roller - I have to take the bit off that I did anyway and I already have the paint so i\'ll see what happens!

Ricco_04

Quote from: elford_timThe problem with HVLP guns is not the pressure, but the air flow that the compressor needs to supply at a given pressure.

From memory, the SATA minijet 4 I have (which is not a full-size gun but rather a touch-up gun, but works well on the smaller surfaces you find on motorbikes) only needs something like 2-3bar, but it wants a sustained 5 or 6 cfm at that pressure. And suddenly a lot of the smaller compressor struggle - I was advised that I probably needed a 2.5bhp compressor just to run that gun. Which I have yet to buy :(.

I think my neighbours would *really* hate me if I tried to buy a compressor to run a fullsize HVLP gun :D.

Yeah, I see what you mean, I have just tried the paint gun (not armed! ;)) and it seems the compressor can feed it the air it wants - it dropf from 8bar to 6 (compressor turns back on here) and seems to remain at 6bar.  So as long as I can find a top feed gun that works at 6bar or just under then hopefully that should work.

Hopefully you cant tell that fingers are crossed there! :Laugh

elford_tim

Quote from: Ricco_04Yeah, I see what you mean, I have just tried the paint gun (not armed! ;)) and it seems the compressor can feed it the air it wants - it dropf from 8bar to 6 (compressor turns back on here) and seems to remain at 6bar.  So as long as I can find a top feed gun that works at 6bar or just under then hopefully that should work.

Hopefully you cant tell that fingers are crossed there! :Laugh
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Heh. TBH, with most of the guns I\'ve used (and no, I\'m not a sprayer, it\'s something I did very occasionally in the past tho\'), I would advise to turn down the boost :rollin. No seriously, I think a lot of guns seem to work better at pressures below 6bar. Which would probably mean that your compressor could (hopefully) sustain the air flow a bit longer.
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Ricco_04

What.....NO BOOST! :evillaugh

Ah good new\'s chap!

I have a wing in the garage which I have repaired and just taking the rust out of it where all the bolts go in along the bottom.  I will try both methods on both the insides of the wings and see what works (I may be some time! :Giggle )  Im trying it on the inside as it\'s a little extra protection for the wing and its my first time :o :p :rollin

interloper393

u baby just paint the whole car for your first go :D

u know what they say man, practise makes perfect lol
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grinder

i dont think its the same as hammerite to be honest - its an enamel paint

my mate priced it up and its about £25 for 2.5 litres and the company reckons that it will paint a mini no probs

i like the idea that its self leveling :D


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RobbieRX-7

http://www.rx7club.com/showthread.php?t=545991&highlight=roller+brush

A couple of guys painted their rx-7\'s white with the rollor brush

Ricco_04

Quote from: interloper393u baby just paint the whole car for your first go :D

u know what they say man, practise makes perfect lol

Don\'t tempt me :spank

Reading through all the info, gonna take some time! :Typing

Thank you every one for all the info.  Interesting reading so far! :Thumbs-up

chopper2k22

Ricco if you want ill take you to the chap who\'s done my car or get him to come along and you can have a chat with him.

imebgo

Hey - Interloper,

You seem to be the resident paint guru around here, can you recommend a spray gun/compressor and relvant tools to use, I want to have a go at spraying up some body kit.

I have got some books on the subject and was going to do something like put cover my garage in some sort of plastic covering to stop dust and try and an extractor or some sort, what would you recommend for the extraction?

Thanks,

James