Can I get a reliable FD for £6.5k

Started by Grub2000, June 07, 2007, 09:42:09 PM

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Baz116

Quote from: Grub2000OK, before I get flamed, I know that this a bit of an un-answerable question, but I would appreciate some opinions, especially from people that have owned any of the cars.

I am looking at spending about 6.5k on a new car but I can\'t decide what to go for.
The options are:
RX-7 obviously
Nissan Skyline GT3R
Mitsi Evo 4
Alfa GTV V6 (the"safe" bet?)

I know these cars are all different and I love the RX-7 above all but is it realistic to think I can get an everyday driver for this money?

Any comments on running cost for the above would also be welcomed.

Rx7, words cannot describe the beauty! just look after it, and dont plan on having kids because theres no room for them in the back!!!!!

Skyline, dont know, sorry.

evo 4, some of the evo 4s get crank walk. This was the 1st 2.0l engine mitsibusi released, evo5s onwords are ok, but evos are all yaw rubbishy computer driven thingys, GET A PROPPER CAR!!!!

Alfas, renouned for electrical problems.

Tim_B

Quote from: Grub2000I have considered Honda\'s but they seam really expensive for what you get, especially the Integra\'s.

Damn and I was gonna try and sell you my Integra :D .. seriously

Would make the best daily drive and alot of car for the money imho.

Of the ones you\'ve listed its got be the RX7 - but you knew we\'d say that on a rotary forum  right :yes  They\'ll all break down and cost a fortune to run but the RX7 will be the most fun, unless you love driving in the rain.  And, of course, it looks the best :InLove

Whatever you do don\'t get the alfa :Nono!

steve_uk5

Hi there i am looking for some advice as to what my car may be worth - 3rd gen rx with rebuild less than 1k ago good cond

ta.

QUOTE=RedRummy]a standard RX7 could be a daily driver, and £6k would get you a very good stanard one.  A modded one would cost about that for a good one, but the running and maintenance costs would be high. (well, higher than a standard spec one)... when they go in for work, they generally need several days for work to be carried out, so a bit annoying if its your only car.

Similar for Skyline... could get a good standard GTS-t for that, but you won\'t get a GTR for £6k... not one that would last a week anyway...  ;)

Not sure about early Evos, but cos they\'re all electronic, they generally cost more when things go wrong.

dunno about Alfas, but I thought they used to be pretty flakey.

that\'s about the extent of my limited kowledge..  :rollin[/QUOTE]

steve_uk5

Hi there i am looking for some advice as to what my car may be worth - 3rd gen rx with rebuild less than 1k ago good cond

ta.

QUOTE=RedRummy]a standard RX7 could be a daily driver, and £6k would get you a very good stanard one.  A modded one would cost about that for a good one, but the running and maintenance costs would be high. (well, higher than a standard spec one)... when they go in for work, they generally need several days for work to be carried out, so a bit annoying if its your only car.

Similar for Skyline... could get a good standard GTS-t for that, but you won\'t get a GTR for £6k... not one that would last a week anyway...  ;)

Not sure about early Evos, but cos they\'re all electronic, they generally cost more when things go wrong.

dunno about Alfas, but I thought they used to be pretty flakey.

that\'s about the extent of my limited kowledge..  :rollin[/QUOTE]

Grub2000

Hey Chris, what\'s a type S then? has the front splitter been ripped off or did it not come on that model?
What\'s the rest of the paintwork like?
Is the suspension adjustable?
Do you back your rebuilds up with any kind of warranty?
Why did the engine blow with only 39k on it?

Grub2000

Quote from: Baz116Rx7, words cannot describe the beauty! just look after it, and dont plan on having kids because theres no room for them in the back!!!!!

Skyline, dont know, sorry.

evo 4, some of the evo 4s get crank walk. This was the 1st 2.0l engine mitsibusi released, evo5s onwords are ok, but evos are all yaw rubbishy computer driven thingys, GET A PROPPER CAR!!!!

Alfas, renouned for electrical problems.

Lol, no plans for kids. Infact a Rex might be a good deterrent :)

chris

Quote from: Grub2000Hey Chris, what\'s a type S then? has the front splitter been ripped off or did it not come on that model?
What\'s the rest of the paintwork like?
Is the suspension adjustable?
Do you back your rebuilds up with any kind of warranty?
Why did the engine blow with only 39k on it?

Hi
The a type S is the entry model, it has a couple of subtle differences from the type R. It is fitted with one oil cooler, no front splitter, no front strut brace and cloth seats, rather than alacantra (i prefer the look of the cloth seats)
Paintwork is in good cond throughout and suspension is not adjustable (although I have stock springs which can be fitted).
The reason for the engine rebuild is that it was fitted with a boost controller in Japan, the new uk owner lent the car to his brother, who decided to \'adjust the boost\' there was insufficient fuel for the boost, and she chipped an apex seal.
Come and have a look at the car and we can discuss all other points.

Chris

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monkey-fd3s

Hmmm reliable hey... how many of you have had an engine rebuild then?  I\'m not saying I don\'t love the RX but they are about as reliable as Del Boy after 5 cans of special brew.

Almost everyone on here has had an engine failure or some major problem.  So much so that people feel the need to learn how to rebuild the engines themselves (due the frequency of strip down).  Do you think they have posts on the GTR or SXOC\'s "How many people\'s engines have died after being rebuilt with less than 5000 miles"

Perhaps bone stock they are good for 60000 miles but lets be honest - it\'d be more sensible to buy an RX8 or 350Z as a daily driver backed by a nice dealer warranty rather than a 5-10 year old FD backed by a warranty that excludes this that or the other

Brett

Quote from: monkey-fd3sHmmm reliable hey... how many of you have had an engine rebuild then?  I\'m not saying I don\'t love the RX but they are about as reliable as Del Boy after 5 cans of special brew.

Almost everyone on here has had an engine failure or some major problem.  So much so that people feel the need to learn how to rebuild the engines themselves (due the frequency of strip down).  Do you think they have posts on the GTR or SXOC\'s "How many people\'s engines have died after being rebuilt with less than 5000 miles"

Perhaps bone stock they are good for 60000 miles but lets be honest - it\'d be more sensible to buy an RX8 or 350Z as a daily driver backed by a nice dealer warranty rather than a 5-10 year old FD backed by a warranty that excludes this that or the other


Bit of a sweeping statement that? :(  Out of the thousands of Rx7\'s only a very few have required multiple rebuilds and usually thats because of human error. Sorry to have a rant but I\'m getting pretty sick of the current rotary/rx7 bashing thats going on! :flamed
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FD3SNuttah

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aye whoever says that they are unreliable blow up all the time is talking nonsense,. stop running stupid boost and you will have an engine that will last long, even as stock these cars are fast enough to kill you.

ive had mine a whole year and not had any major issues. yeah will probably need rebuilding one day, but any high peformance engine needs work now and then.

when a GTR engine blows up it costs twice as much as rotor to rebuild, best thing is a lot of people learn how to rebuild a rotor themselves.

quit bashin the rotor, its a VERY reliable car. no mine isnt for sale.

sadgoth

Quote from: monkey-fd3sAlmost everyone on here has had an engine failure or some major problem.  So much so that people feel the need to learn how to rebuild the engines themselves (due the frequency of strip down).  Do you think they have posts on the GTR or SXOC\'s "How many people\'s engines have died after being rebuilt with less than 5000 miles"


interestingly I have read some very scary stories on GTROC including one which went along the lines of: "my RB26 suffered catastrophic failure, cost me £12k to rebuild, lasted 1000 miles and the bottom end went, took it back to the engine builder they agreed to cover half the cost of another rebuild then about six months later it went again, now taken it to another builder and paid out another £10k but at last I\'m happy with the build!"

As far as my maths goes that means some poor sap has forked out over £28k to sort out his GTR! I think £3k (even if it has been done twice in a year) kind of pales into insignificance eh? Like everyone else has said, if looked after properly, there is no reason why an FD can\'t run happily for 6-8 years without any sort of rebuild required.
Mark
89 Black FC3S Turbo II
1/2 Bridge port   Microtech LT10s   TII Conv Aluminium Bonnet & Leather seats   Koni Shocks Pi Springs   De-catted 3" exhaust  
GT4088 turbo   Walbro fuel pump   1000cc injectors   custom V-Mount   Blitz Boost Controller (ok so the boost controller is still to fit)

Loud? Hell yes! :D

ro284

I think the reality is that due to the age of most of these cars, ( mines 14 now, ) The main reason the engines fail is not mechanical, but failed water seal grooves, i mean the cast iron plate water seal grooves that rust,  and the reason being you never know how much or if any coolant corrosion nhibitor has been used in Japan before the car even gets here, the total miles on my car is only 62K which is not a lot! and it certainly suited me that the engine failed for the unfortunate previous owner, as i was able to get the car i wanted and afford a rebuild, and is one of the most reliable cars iv\'e ever had, getting a rebuild done when needed is best seen as an investment,
Bob

interloper393

as has been said many many times before, regular service, say 1500-2000 miles with plugs, oil filters and a good oil, coolent change say every 6 months.. a good map to an apexi and these are more reliable than most other cars out there, as said above a skyline engine will cost around 7k to be rebuilt.. and im sure most will tell you that have rebuilt there own engines, its all part of the fun.. home builds cn range from 800 to 2000 depending on how bad n how many plates are needed, and im sure everyones close to a few members that will be more than willing to help cus everyone on heres genuin n top guys/gals :)

my 2p lol... flame me if ya want.. i know the dribble im sayings true :evillaugh
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Grub2000

Well as an RX noob it is hard to get a good idea of how long an RX7 will last.

From what I have gathered from post on here, if you buy a rebuild it should last you 6-7 years, which is fine with me.

What I don\'t want is to buy a rebuilt one (obviously paying more) and then it blowing within a few years as that would be a big financial pain in the balls.