Help please, engine died and won\'t start!

[interloper393]

remove 1 plug, make sure the lead isnt touching the chassis. i.e tape it up or something, remove the egi fuse and get someone to crank it over, you should here 3 pshhed noise and all will sound even, good sign if somethings wrong and do this with each plug..

[interloper393]

just checked man your 2 hours drive fae me, if your havin no joy cn poss pop up this weekend maybe?

[Jim_rx7]

Ah! .... would appreciate it mate!!

I just remove the top plug on rhs, test it. Put it back in, then do the same with the other one?

I\'ll try to get it started first tho as remove the plugs were a logistical nightmare! lol.

[Jim_rx7]

just checked man your 2 hours drive fae me, if your havin no joy cn poss pop up this weekend maybe?

Better get used to it mate. If it needs a rebuild, we\'ll become best freinds! lol.

[interloper393]

Ah! .... would appreciate it mate!!

I just remove the top plug on rhs, test it. Put it back in, then do the same with the other one?

I\'ll try to get it started first tho as remove the plugs were a logistical nightmare! lol.

yeah n listen for anythin uneven or missing, good indication if a tips away..

[Tiger_kpt]

Just out of interest mate... is yours a UK spec or a Jap spec car?

What engine management are you using currently? Standard ECU or the Apexi you got on the base map?

Mine is a 1993 UK spec FD. Had a few issues with mine on standard and Apexi base map management when running heat range 9 plugs all round. Dodgy idle. Tad lumpy, etc.

The plugs you took out were knackered. Fouled. Don\'t bother trying to clean them up. Replace with new. Use 9\'s in the trailing spark plugs ports. But I would strongly advise using the hotter heat range 7\'s in the leading ports. You\'d be suprised at how well and how much better the engine will run. And you will simply NEVER flood it again!!!

[Jim_rx7]

Well, I got out to the car and after a few attempts it started!!

I kept the revs up for a few minutes, the odd bang from the exhaust etc. But whenever I let it go anywhere near idle it would shake a little and want to stall.

So I kept the revs up for a little longer, again it would want to stall. So I let it!... lol. When it stopped I noticed a little steam/smoke come up from the engine.

It came form the top left of the engine. Above the turbo\'s area.



Ok.... so my assumption is it\'s fookered??.... lol.

Anyone got any ideas, suggestions, or even if it\'s to confirm that it\'s fookered!!

[Jim_rx7]

ANyone also got any ideas as to why it\'s fooked? Or what\'s wrong with it?

[interloper393]

did you do the crank test i said about?

[mikeyh]

sounds like it might be a leak then burst pipe

[Tiger_kpt]

If you are running the Apexi on the base map I would suggest that is what fouled your old plugs. The base map runs rich to say the least. That is likely why you have been flooding easily too and that will also explain the lumpy idle and choking engine (stalling) symtoms. I bet you are running heat range 9 plugs all round.
Before you do anything or jump to any conclusions I would strongly suggest changing your leading to 7\'s. You\'d be very suprised at what difference this will make to the running of your engine. 9\'s shouldn\'t be used all round, even though most people do - as it was written in the Mazda manual. This was actually a typing error in the manual.
I get my 7\'s and 9\'s from Pettit Racing in the USA. Works out £5 a plug - NGK. VERY quick delivery also.
I had a very rough, spluttering idle on a standard engine and standard ECU, this was exactly the same when running the Apexi on the base map. Almost made the car shke and rattle. Putting 7\'s in leading and new 9\'s in trailing cured this straight away. I also replaced leads with Magnecors for good measure. And my compressions were and are mid 8\'s all round.

[mikeyh]

he not got an apexi hes on standard ecu i think

[sadgoth]

Sorry to sound negative, but I threw a tip on my TII (and on one of my gen 1s!) and the symptoms were similar, VERY lumpy idle, urge to stall at low revs and small amounts of steam/smoke coming from the engine. I hope I\'m wrong, but it does sound that way.....

[Tiger_kpt]

You\'re on standard ECU? What modifications are you running on stock software?

[interloper393]

You\'re on standard ECU? What modifications are you running on stock software?

too many bud.. i wouldnt have fitted the bits he`s got without an apexi first, but i dont think thats the prob...

See how u get on and maybe i cn pop up at the weekend m8.. might even be in the rex :S :S :S :S :S