Alban\'s Elford Turbo Project

alban1973 · April 27, 2007, 03:15:38 PM

Yesterday the car decided to play silly, keeps draining the battery,, havent changed anything, But willl have to have a look to see what current it is drawing, then find out from where,?

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David Nock (RIP) · April 28, 2007, 11:22:26 AM

Quote from: alban1973The car was imported from the channel islands in 86, by the previous owner, I assume that he would have got it registered in Leeds, as he lived in weatherby

Imagine that car in the Channel Islands! Unused 4th and 5th Gears!

Cycaduk · April 30, 2007, 06:23:24 PM

Hi all, some tuppenyworth from me.

convenient site for PU bushes, http://www.energysuspensionparts.com/proddetail.asp?prod=StoreMade003.
These are the same make that Victoria British sell. And they are a bit cheaper, and you can use paypal to pay for them. Just bought a set for the \'new\' 1st Gen.
Does anyone know the sizes of the various nuts, bolts washers etc for the suspension? Last one of these I had, I got all new from Victoria British, and ended up paying as much for them as for the bushes.

mpk490p · May 01, 2007, 07:33:06 AM

Quote from: CycadukHi all, some tuppenyworth from me.

convenient site for PU bushes, http://www.energysuspensionparts.com/proddetail.asp?prod=StoreMade003.
These are the same make that Victoria British sell. And they are a bit cheaper, and you can use paypal to pay for them. Just bought a set for the \'new\' 1st Gen.
Does anyone know the sizes of the various nuts, bolts washers etc for the suspension? Last one of these I had, I got all new from Victoria British, and ended up paying as much for them as for the bushes.

How much did they quote you for shipping?
it seems like a good price for the set
Mark

Cycaduk · May 01, 2007, 05:34:35 PM

Postage was $51 or so, for 3-4 days express (thats all they do for europe, apparently its the lowest cost where we can get tracking, and sometimes less on the customs etc) so all in I got the bushes for close on Â£100.Plus VAT etc, so probably nearer Â£130.

I also got them in \'red\' which will look a bit prettier.

shaunwil · May 01, 2007, 06:10:50 PM

I\'ve got a set of them waiting to be fit, ordered some straight bits off tim !

Shaun

alban1973 · May 04, 2007, 09:16:27 AM

A bit of an update on the project. The poor old thing has had some stick over the last week. my citroen decided it to loose its rear suspension so whille I was waiting for bits and time to sort it the little elford has been "works van". I have covered 1189 miles in the week including the trip to the dyno day. that was very interesting and does show up some issues on paper that I have been aware of all along, the power was 90Bhp at the hubs at about 5500rpm and lots of torque at 3000 rpm... the battery issue was just the battery, The suspension has made a huge difference, even thou I havnt got the struts back. it is now well settled in. the thing needs a good check over and service, it has developed a sight misfire at tickover and still has issues with the clutch master cylinder........

mpk490p · May 04, 2007, 09:34:22 AM

Quote from: alban1973A bit of an update on the project. The poor old thing has had some stick over the last week. my citroen decided it to loose its rear suspension so whille I was waiting for bits and time to sort it the little elford has been "works van". I have covered 1189 miles in the week including the trip to the dyno day. that was very interesting and does show up some issues on paper that I have been aware of all along, the power was 90Bhp at the hubs at about 5500rpm and lots of torque at 3000 rpm... the battery issue was just the battery, The suspension has made a huge difference, even thou I havnt got the struts back. it is now well settled in. the thing needs a good check over and service, it has developed a sight misfire at tickover and still has issues with the clutch master cylinder........

Sweet, 1189 that 6 months driving in mine!! (mind you its not moved for the last 2 months!) bet you noticed the difference in MPG though, do you need a new clutch master cylinder?
when are you hoping to get the struts in? take it the rears are on

Mark

mullins · May 04, 2007, 09:39:31 AM

Did you really just say only 90bhp? That\'s less than a stock 10a engine. Elford turbos are supposed to make in the region of 160bhp aren\'t they? Something not right there.

mpk490p · May 04, 2007, 09:46:30 AM

i thought the same but didnt like to say, mines going on the dino next week when the weber goes on, hoping to make 140 / 150bhp

Mark

alban1973 · May 04, 2007, 04:27:03 PM

Quote from: mullinsDid you really just say only 90bhp? That\'s less than a stock 10a engine. Elford turbos are supposed to make in the region of 160bhp aren\'t they? Something not right there.

I stand corrected, it was actually 90.5Bhp at 5500rpm how much more do you need??

grinder · May 04, 2007, 07:55:27 PM

thats at the hubs - i bet mazdas figure was at the fly

shaunwil · May 04, 2007, 10:20:47 PM

Remember mine was only 63bhp on pips dyno without a turbo. Have you got anybody local that could do a compression test ?

Shaun

alban1973 · May 05, 2007, 09:48:56 AM

Also what you have to think, if you read the whole thread, this project is following the path of a car that is actually used.... The car was bought after being off the road for a few years, no engine, in just over a month it was back up and running with an engine of unknown quantity, which I believe is an early small port 12a. all cobbled together,the rest of the car is being improved a bit at a time in the important areas, no good having 100\'s of hp in a car that is a pig to drive, as other members have found out. basically its down to the whole package rather than the power of the engine. The actual power of the car is really not an issue, the actual torque figure is not huge either at 119 .6ft ibs but this is achived at 3000 rpm. this relates in real terms a big kick at that rev range, hence it is not actually that slow on the road, try to thrash the thing and you are wasting your time, just go for another gear and off you go again, in saying that on a good road the speedo will nearly run out of numbers. the thing is there to enjoy,improve, most importantly use. which it gets plenty of.

mpk490p · May 05, 2007, 11:41:21 AM

Quote from: alban1973Also what you have to think, if you read the whole thread, this project is following the path of a car that is actually used.... The car was bought after being off the road for a few years, no engine, in just over a month it was back up and running with an engine of unknown quantity, which I believe is an early small port 12a. all cobbled together,the rest of the car is being improved a bit at a time in the important areas, no good having 100\'s of hp in a car that is a pig to drive, as other members have found out. basically its down to the whole package rather than the power of the engine. The actual power of the car is really not an issue, the actual torque figure is not huge either at 119 .6ft ibs but this is achived at 3000 rpm. this relates in real terms a big kick at that rev range, hence it is not actually that slow on the road, try to thrash the thing and you are wasting your time, just go for another gear and off you go again, in saying that on a good road the speedo will nearly run out of numbers. the thing is there to enjoy,improve, most importantly use. which it gets plenty of.

here here, i will be quite happy with mine and dont intend on modding the engine any further (would rather buy a gen 3 for more power) i enjoy the way the car drives and the way it looks along with the rare factor, to be honest it is all fiquires my car feels quick enough for me and my chasis i wouldnt want to put 250bhp through it for fear of ripping the thing in half!!!
Having said that i did have a little look at blow through turbos!!

Mark