How would you prolong the life of your rotary ?

Started by RobPhobos, April 13, 2007, 08:40:39 AM

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Grizzly

Quote from: RobPhobosJust out of curiosity, say you were pushing around 500Bhp, what would you do to make sure the wee rotary doesn\'t need a visit to the rebuilders every 6 months or year ?
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Don\'t drive it, Just look at it and Polish it just for god sake don\'t drive it.... LOL

Only Joking, I\'d have to agree with the Lower boost theory, if you have it set up foir 500hp does\'nt mean you have to run that all the time. Plus to make a Rotary last takes Lots of TLC and Respect for the car.

m4drx

Quote from: antnicuknope, i wouldnt build them for others if you paid me!   I couldnt think of anything worse than being a Rotary engine builder/tuner for a living.  Your customers are never going to be satisfied for long!

oh please... :(
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iaint

Quote from: Lum90Not compared to a early TVR ajp lump!

that was until they realeased the Speed 6 which eclipsed the AJP by a country mile!!!

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ashc

Quote from: antnicukRebuilt It!


2 hours to take it out,
2 hours to strip it,
2 hours to clean it,
2 hours to re assemble,
2 hours to fit accessories
2 hours to refit to car!
Job done

next time can i watch?! :yes

antnicuk

your too late, i\'m almost done,  
BTW plus if you want porting add a day, its an awful job!
400 BHP - 650 KG\'s = 616 BHP Per Ton of Rotary Power

That\'s the way to do it! :Thumbsup!


antnicuk

i agree they are sensitive engines but i dont think delicate is the right word as when they are set up right they really can last well considering the power. I did seriously look into using a different engine but decided against it on a purely cost basis.  For me everything else is more expensive but i would definately back anyone doing a V8 conversion.

If the water temps are good, the intake temps are good, the tune is safe and you rung w/i and premix they will run long and hard. Where you encounter problems is when one of the above is slightly out the chances it will fail whereas another power plant might survive.

I\'m no rotary fanatic, far from it but they work for me and they are what i know.
400 BHP - 650 KG\'s = 616 BHP Per Ton of Rotary Power

That\'s the way to do it! :Thumbsup!


D1 WTF

Quote from: rx7veilsidegot to be the most fragile performance lump ever

nah 7k miles and 4 months on two engines is good i think :rolleyes:   lets see how long the 3rd engine will last
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ashc

should a normal stock car last longer with premix then?

TonyC

If you are running an engine that is producing twice it\'s original power you have to face up to the fact that it will need frequeent maintenance. \'aint no way around it.
My old 4 cylinder race engine would be refreshed evey season - that is only around 300-400 miles! if it wasn\'t it would be much more likley to fail the following season.

Power costs. The End.
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RobPhobos

Hmm, not exactly what i wanted to hear :D
rebuild rebuild rebuild

BlitzBoy

Just under 4K hard driven miles on the HB and going strong (Premis baby :D), record for me, 1st engine I done when OMP failed on the rear rotor was only 2K miles, the second one I done was warping the seals on the front rotor not enough lube at high boost that was 2K miles as well again OMP is cr%p for high HP.

So premix is working well for me at the mo now with added AQ WI :D, I think next time I blow it Im gonna have a go at it myself in terms of rebuild get Era to teach me. But I have a feeling that wont be for another 10K miles at least
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old spec HB T51 470 @ wheels @ 1.2 BAR, 555 @ fly 10.46 @ 130 @ 1.25 Bar
new spec FB T51 482 @ wheels @ 1.15 BAR, 570 @ fly

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stylus350

12k on 500 as a daily. OMP no premix or water injection running at 1.1 bar. Gets ragged as often as traffic conditions allow. Was going pre mix but Pip more or less talked me out of it. Finding some wood to touch right now.

stylus350

Quote from: stylus35012k on 500 as a daily. OMP no premix or water injection running at 1.1 bar. Gets ragged as often as possible which lets face it is only a small percentage of road driving. Was going pre mix but Pip more or less talked me out of it. Finding some wood to touch right now.

Hmmm clicked quote not edit.

darko32

sorry to be ignorant but what does premix mean??

BlitzBoy

adding 2-stroke oil to the petrol on fill up at a ratio of 100:1 to 200:1 depending if you have the OMP still installed or not
"Piston Killa" 3rd Gen\'94 \'Oldone Racing Full Bridge Ported REW 13b engine with SCR seals\'. HKS T51 KAI turbo BBM mapped Motec ECU

JDS/HKS Street Class Championship Runner up 2011
Rotorstock winner 08,09
http://pistonkilla.blogspot.com/
old spec HB T51 470 @ wheels @ 1.2 BAR, 555 @ fly 10.46 @ 130 @ 1.25 Bar
new spec FB T51 482 @ wheels @ 1.15 BAR, 570 @ fly

New Project
"el fénix" RX2 by Mark & Mark