12a N/A LPG ??

[Ricco_04]

Excellant progress - still reading with interest :yes

[shaunwil]

Er, on the picture front I forgot to take the pictures. I\'ll take some tomorrow and post them up. I\'m still not sure the setup is right, the tank is showing 3/4 full when I haven\'t put anything in it ! So the check up is the next part !

The tank fitting is by far the hardest bit of the process and cutting body panels to fit the filler is also scary. Access next to the petrol cap is quite good but still very fiddly even with the petrol tank out. Then its getting the tank back in the car !

The alternator relocation is this :

http://www.pineappleracing.com/index.asp?PageAction=VIEWPROD&ProdID=9

Works out at about 58 quid for the bracket and the belt with economy airmail. Shame they don\'t make one for the FD !

Shaun

[banned advertiser]

Ive driven a lpg that used a motec unit to squirt petrol in, it was also turbo charged, thing flew, the petrol was used like NOS it spool the turbo.

[shaunwil]

The more I think about it the more the questions are to be asked why nobody does the FD at all.

Ok if fueling is an issue why can\'t we just use the PFC to control a single bank of LPG injectors. Then when on boost or say at 85% of the LPG injectors duty have a secondary petrol system like the auxiliary kits already used on bigger turbo setups ?

Is there any serious issues with mixing both petrol and gas ??

Would mean that off boost and tootling would be done on cheaper fuel then when the right foot gets a bit happy then the supply is supplemented by petrol ?

Would this type of setup be easier with a motec / haltec type setup in the FD ??

Shaun

[shaunwil]

Right, cars booked in for an inspection and first filling tomorrow. I\'ve ordered a new dizzy cap and arm (not looking very good) and the car is booked into WGT the saturday after to be tuned

Took my plugs out and the Top plugs where full of carbon and the bottoms where white/brown. Brushed them both clean and reinstalled them. Not sure what this indicates ! Wish my FD plugs where as easy to get to

Shaun

[mpk490p]

did that solve the sluggish performance?

Mark

[shaunwil]

Not really sure, pulled the plugs out and the top plugs where completely black. Got a dizzy cap on order to see if that helps. Should have it tomorrow.

Its very intermittent, its as much like naff fuel !

Shaun

[mpk490p]

Not really sure, pulled the plugs out and the top plugs where completely black. Got a dizzy cap on order to see if that helps. Should have it tomorrow.

Its very intermittent, its as much like naff fuel !

Shaun

youve not been to Tescos have you!!:eek:

Mark

[shaunwil]

No i haven\'t ! The gas is giving some of the same results so i think something else is the problem. Only getting dizzy cap on tuesday now with a fresh rotor arm so will take it from there.

I need to do some resistance testes on my coils and wires to see if something else has gone south.

The kit was tested this morning. I have a leak in the filler pipe and i\'ve forgot to install a cover on the filler nozzle so some work still to do. The car now has  LPG in the tank (20l for £8.45) and i\'ve done about 15 miles on a basic setup. Car revs to the red line and backfires between gears

Going to give pip a ring on monday and ask him how long it would take to remove all the emissions cr*p off my engine before its tuned. The vacuum on a rotary isn\'t great and the car is struggling at idle, hopefully simplifying the vacuum system will help the tick over.

The car showed high hydrocarbons on tickover but this improved alot when the car was reved to be a slight minus figure !! Car seemed to run a bit hot but i think the ignition isn\'t helping and the setup is a bit richer ! I\'ll have to leave it to pip to see what he can do !

I\'ll wait until the cars completely cold, see if it starts on gas and if it does the fuel tank will being taken out and staying out

Shaun

[grinder]

thats superb news matey

when its running on gas properly i want a ride in it

[shaunwil]

It doesn\'t feel any different to when you drove it

Almost popped in on the way back, went past the end of your road, but was off home for some dinner

I know i need to fix the ignition system this week and hopefully pip will do his wonders

Who knows, another year and i might even consider doing the FD !

Shaun

[grinder]

the FD - it would be interesting

very very brave - but interesting

[shaunwil]

The more i think about it the less difficult it may be ! But i need to get the 1st gen sorted first !

Shaun

[grinder]

hummmm i would be worried about it going wrong to be honest

the FB - you can prob get an engine cheap enough - if you kill the FD - thats a lot of money down the pan

on the flip side - the saving acheived using LPG would pay for a rebuild no doubt ??

[shaunwil]

But we all harper on about fuel costs and the ron of petrol. LPG is 107-110 ron and doesn\'t detonate like petrol so there are alot of advantages.

If you could have the gas do the same work as the stock fuel setup then have additional petrol injectors for greater fueling then job done. LPG for tootling motorway off boost driving and then add petrol on top for boost like we already do with additional injectors and controllers then the swap isn\'t hugely more intense than adding a 3rd set of injectors on petrol.

Shaun