over 400bhp on apexi?

royal · March 31, 2007, 01:26:27 AM

The banana has 465 RWBHP with an Apexi and runs fine. You get better results from the Motec and other more expensive ecus because they give better control of the fueling and other bits. More powerful computer in there as well I\'d have thought so also faster doing its stuff. I saw a Motec 300zx install and was amazed at how much more power that got than the same mods / boost with a cheaper ECU. I\'d like to give one a try on the Rex.

chrno · March 31, 2007, 08:43:31 AM

Another thing to concider is that the Power FC runs on standard loom, so it\'s very easy to install, Ofcourse a ECU system (with new sensors and wires and "better" ecu) will have better performance, but I think it all comes down to what you want with the car. As alot of people has said: In Japan, alot of the tuners use the Power FC on their cars, and customers cars. Because of very good performance, cheap price and extremely easy install compared to other systems.

John Yorke · March 31, 2007, 12:54:55 PM

Having recently changed from Apexi to F Con all I can say is wow;) the difference in delivery is realy marked, every passenger that has been in it has remarked at how smooth it is. I would say it was worth the extra couple of hundred pounds. Anyone running 400+on an Apexi and seeing over 20mpg..........I do:god

strange_days_uk · March 31, 2007, 12:57:00 PM

John, who can map the FCon ?

is it really that much smoother, like low revs on and off the throttle not bouncing around ?

John Yorke · March 31, 2007, 02:05:48 PM

Quote from: strange_days_ukJohn, who can map the FCon ?

is it really that much smoother, like low revs on and off the throttle not bouncing around ?

As a babies bum:D bearing in mind I am 1/2 bridge I have an even tickover at 850 as you come off throttle up traffic lights revs drop to 1200 and you get the braap brap braappp for 10secs then down to 850 very civilised.
Max is a dab hand at the F-con atm the only rotary tuner that is HKS approved.
To give you an idea how smooth it is people have remarked how with the Apexi you get that aggressive urge that gives you the impression of power / speed with this you accelerate round to 8.5k 2nd, 3rd & 4th and you dont get that impression of power untill you look at the clock:2eek

Laeeq · March 31, 2007, 02:14:49 PM

So how much is it for f con i and how much to get it maped? if you dont mind me asking..

Is it just matter of taking the apexi out and put the F con in and get it mapped on standard street port or are there loads of other mods you will have to do before going on that path?

:Thumbsup! Cheers

John Yorke · March 31, 2007, 02:27:51 PM

Quote from: LaeeqSo how much is it for f con i and how much to get it maped? if you dont mind me asking..

Is it just matter of taking the apexi out and put the F con in and get it mapped on standard street port or are there loads of other mods you will have to do before going on that path?:Thumbsup! Cheers

It is a straight plugin unless you want additional sensors [not bothered with this myself] I think the prices are on REworx web site unless you buy from Japan [if you do make sure you buy the 3.2 version] mapping is much the same price as the Apexi. Oh you will need the additional wiring loom, best advice would be to contact Chris / Geff. hth;)

Jono FD3 · March 31, 2007, 02:54:34 PM

Sorry to thread Hi-jack...... John, could you send us a pic of your car with the graphics on mate as I couldn\'t find them on FDUK!!!

info@d-signstudio.com
I\'m trying to get a load of pics of work I have done for the new web site!!

Jono

Fish · March 31, 2007, 04:46:28 PM

Quote from: John YorkeIt is a straight plugin unless you want additional sensors [not bothered with this myself]

Sounds good.

Quote from: John YorkeOh you will need the additional wiring loom

Thought it was a straight plug in? Sorry John but bit of a contradiction there!

Fish

John Yorke · March 31, 2007, 04:58:01 PM

Quote from: FishSounds good.

Thought it was a straight plug in? Sorry John but bit of a contradiction there!

Fish

The loom is a straight plug in from one to the other, no souldering ect. you can also get a navigator similar to the commander that will allow you to view boost, temps ect.
Dont exactly agree that is a contradiction anyways, might be worth looking at what is involved, it is nothing as complicated as the Motec anyway.

Fish · March 31, 2007, 05:46:34 PM

So its not a straight plug in then, there is a loom adapter fitted?

Fish

John Yorke · March 31, 2007, 06:04:43 PM

Quote from: FishSo its not a straight plug in then, there is a loom adapter fitted?

Fish

The loom is a lead that connects the 2 together a straight plugin

shaunwil · March 31, 2007, 06:53:13 PM

Im still interested in what kevs haltech does. Theres some serious amount of user control in some of the higher priced units.

Shaun

MikeLMR · March 31, 2007, 07:00:24 PM

If an ECU can control the phsyical parts required to make a level of HP it should be OK ... yes? so theoretically there isn\'t a "limit" with any ECU, it\'s just that you won\'t get the full potential due to limitations in the resolution of the map and other factors.

Ricco_04 · March 31, 2007, 07:04:58 PM

Would there be a difference if you had 2 FD\'s, both decat, both with Apexi but one was the 8bit and one was the later 16bit version?