Removing bar...

Started by Ricco_04, March 30, 2007, 09:17:21 PM

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Ricco_04

Don\'t know the correct name for it, so I have attached a piccie :)  I have noticed on a few of the FC\'s out there that they have the lower front bar that the wiring loom and horns etc mount too, removed.

I guess this is ok to do as some of you have already done so?

It looks a bit structual to me so :
Do you notice any difference?
If is best to leave it there?

thanks, Ricco.

grinder

i have never seen a FC without one to be honest

at a guess i would say its structural - its a fair size and i cant see them adding soooo much weight for nothing

is there a reason for removing it ??

Stu


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grinder

ok - i have seen the pic on this thread : http://www.mazdarotaryclub.com/forums/showthread.php?t=36804

i have no idea why its not there ???????????


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Ricco_04

I believe from memory (so could be whhhhhhhhhey wrong) that 88GTR has his removed too.

The only reason to remove for myself was the airflow/ducting/weight issue - I imagine the rest are done for the sale reason - also I have seen a couple rusted where they mount to the chassis.

antnicuk

Quote from: grinderi have never seen a FC without one to be honest

at a guess i would say its structural - its a fair size and i cant see them adding soooo much weight for nothing

is there a reason for removing it ??

Stu


I think i agree with Stu on this one.   Jon (88gtr) has a full cage which will make the car more rigid and can probably get away without the bar
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Brett

That bit IS structural, unless you have added stiffening somwhere else I would leave it well alone.  And rust here is a 100% MOT failure too.
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shaunwil

Would have thought the only reason for removing it is to make engine removal easier. That and the other bars. But even then it would need to be replaced by a bolt in replacement. This will stop the chassis from flexing with the engine torque.

Leave it alone :p

Shaun
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Brett

Engine removal is easy providing you remove the rad ;)
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shaunwil

Would that include the gearbox ?????

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Ricco_04

Thanks for the reply\'s guys :Thumbsup! Thought it was structual so had already removed any rust & repainted but had to ask just in case.  I had even thought about chopping it out and putting a home made thicker/stronger one in to help the chassis out that little bit more.

Just come back in - I really need a blaster on this rust :rolleyes:

Brett

No, leave the box behind! :yes
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hawker182

Hey ricco, can ya please let me know how you removed the front bumper on your FC cause i have been at it for hours and it still wont come off :(

grinder

Adam ,

are you fitting a FMIC then ?

Stu


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hawker182

Yeah waiting on ebay for the piping but in the meantime cant get the damn front bumper off as its pretty restrictive, just this minute finished the battery relocation, had that done from start to finish in about 2hrs, well chuffed and the car never set on fire lol,  just got the p/s pump to sort tomor. Anyone know if ordinary Vacuum Hose will do for PS pipes as the guy i brought the saxo pump off had cut them real short!

antnicuk

I will be removing my front bumper soon so any guidence will be useful


the main pipe is high pressure so will need a proper fitting, the return is low pressure so normal fuel hose will do it.  Coolant hose may not agree with the fluid.
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