Injector Duty Cycle on Stock S5 ECU?

[Prof]

tis very very sexy matey !!
 
thing with the one that i mentioned - you might need to then get the harness from somewhere else
 
prof : did yours come with a FC specific harness ?

No - But I think boomslang do one.  I am going to \'roll my own\' !

[BenLewisMav]

Sounds good, I think going the ECU method is the route I shall take, probably more cost effective and definately reduced danger of accidental fiddling equalling destruction...
 
The only thing that I\'ve had delivered yet is the SAFC, so if I get an ECU with boost control (like the power fc addon) then I could save money probably? To be honest I\'m not really sure why you\'d need a standalone elec. boost controller that you can fiddle with on the fly, if you can\'t change the timing and fueling to match? Seems dangerous, running lean anyone?
 
I\'m looking at Power FC\'s, but obviously the FC3S is discontinued. Anyone know if anyone is selling them second hand? Or where I could find one for a reasonable price?

[sadgoth]

or this

http://www.nengun.com/trust-greddy/e-manage-ultimate

53,000.00 JPY=235.976 GBP

If you added the full FC wiring harness then it would be £309 inc air freight to your door!:guinness

[grinder]

not bad at all is it

must resist buying toys

and you can use a FD early power fc on the FC ( and the US guys have a special harness that makes it 90% plug and play )

[BenLewisMav]

Scarily good... still researching the Fd3s power fc into fc3s conversion (trying to source fd parts needed).
 
What do you think I should choose? The Power FC is probably a better unit and adjusting/monitoring things on the fly is much nicer, (fd power fc + power commander + boost controller + fd to fc conversion) = £650
 
but
 
the emanage system is nice and having an extra toy on the dash (in the form of a boost controller) would be nice. Just reading you can do stuff like flip between maps which is convenient for normal driving then great for racing rudeboy scoobys, although i\'m sure the Power FC allows quick map and boost setting changes..  (e manage ultimate + fc3s harness + decent boost controller) = £560
 
What would you get and why? I was planning on fitting lots of gauges to obsessively monitor and tweak the setup using my apexi boost and fuel computers, but I guess I could save a bit of money if I just did it all through the Power FC.
I\'d probably only need to get Oil temp, Oil pressure and Air Fuel Ratio gauges (as thats what the power fc doesnt seem to cover/display)[do you think skimping on the gauges is ok considering the Power FC display?I am planning to run 400rwhp)

[BenLewisMav]

My Calculations above were *slightly* off, it actually turns out that a Power FC install would be just under a grand!
 
->> Power FC, total control of boost, timing and fueling
Power FC + commander £350
Boost control kit £130
FD to FC harness adapter kit £123
3 Bar Map Sensor
FD Intake air temp sensor
FD Igniter & connector                Â£100 ish for all three
Mapping £200 (£300 WGT)
Power FC total = £900-£1000 [ouch]
 
->> Greddy E-Manage Ultimate
E-Manage and Harness £305
Boost Controller £250
Software £50
Wideband Sensor £100
Greddy E-Manage total = £705
 

If you added the full FC wiring harness then it would be £309 inc air freight to your door!:guinness

Where do I get an FC3S harness from? Are you refering to the top one listed on the nengun site?
 
I\'m actually just temped to pay £400 inc delivery and buy complete e manage ultimate kit (harness + ultimate + software), no risk of import tax that way and quick delivery..

[Prof]

My Calculations above were *slightly* off, it actually turns out that a Power FC install would be just under a grand!
 
->> Power FC, total control of boost, timing and fueling
Power FC + commander £350
Boost control kit £130
FD to FC harness adapter kit £123
3 Bar Map Sensor
FD Intake air temp sensor
FD Igniter & connector £100 ish for all three
Mapping £200 (£300 WGT)
Power FC total = £900-£1000 [ouch]
 
->> Greddy E-Manage Ultimate
E-Manage and Harness £305
Boost Controller £250
Software £50
Wideband Sensor £100
Greddy E-Manage total = £705
 
 
 
Where do I get an FC3S harness from? Are you refering to the top one listed on the nengun site?
 
I\'m actually just temped to pay £400 inc delivery and buy complete e manage ultimate kit (harness + ultimate + software), no risk of import tax that way and quick delivery..

Software for the Emanage Ultimate comes free - not like the old blue one !

[antnicuk]

dont use the power fc boost control its crap, use the one you have

[sadgoth]

My Calculations above were *slightly* off, it actually turns out that a Power FC install would be just under a grand!
 
->> Power FC, total control of boost, timing and fueling
Power FC + commander £350
Boost control kit £130
FD to FC harness adapter kit £123
3 Bar Map Sensor
FD Intake air temp sensor
FD Igniter & connector                Â£100 ish for all three
Mapping £200 (£300 WGT)
Power FC total = £900-£1000 [ouch]
 
->> Greddy E-Manage Ultimate
E-Manage and Harness £305
Boost Controller £250
Software £50
Wideband Sensor £100
Greddy E-Manage total = £705
 

 
Where do I get an FC3S harness from? Are you refering to the top one listed on the nengun site?
 
I\'m actually just temped to pay £400 inc delivery and buy complete e manage ultimate kit (harness + ultimate + software), no risk of import tax that way and quick delivery..

you\'ve got the boost controller already haven\'t you? the AFC-R?

Should be a good option. as most people know I have a bias towards the Microtech, but that is because I use one and Tim runs one in the Purple Peril with no problems

[grinder]

you can get a microtech for about £550 in the Uk - so not sure how that comes into your calculations ??

and you have missed mapping off the e-manage - so prob comes out a similar price

[sadgoth]

I suspect he\'s thinking of mapping the e-manage himself, the microtech is quite easy to map as well...

[BenLewisMav]

*EDIT* So to quote and correct myself..
 
->> Power FC, total control of boost, timing and fueling
Power FC + commander £350
Boost control kit £130
FD to FC harness adapter kit £123
3 Bar Map Sensor
FD Intake air temp sensor
FD Igniter & connector £100 ish for all three
Mapping £200 (£300 WGT)
Power FC total = £900-£1000 [ouch]

->> Greddy E-Manage Ultimate
E-Manage and Harness £305
Boost Controller £250
Wideband Sensor £100 (<< The reason for not including dyno mapping [for the time being] )
 
Greddy E-Manage total = £655
 
Also I haven\'t yet paid for the Apexi AVC-R and have been holding off doing so, I\'ve heard mixed reviews about how people have found it doesnt give them the control they want and it\'s too fiddly. Ideally what I want is to use the E-Manage Ultimate and Boost controller together so that the map can adjust as I change the boost. (Without having to get it on the dyno/take it, for example, to a power fc specialist.)

[BenLewisMav]

I suspect he\'s thinking of mapping the e-manage himself, the microtech is quite easy to map as well...

Spot on, as its only a piggyback it will allow me to adjust the standard mapping, rather than mapping from scratch.

[BenLewisMav]

I also just noticed the Profec E-01 (which I was planning to use with the Ultimate) isn\'t compatible!
Nightmare.
Does anyone know of a way to get it to work? perhaps rewiring correct connectors..? Seems a bit of a kick in the arse for Greddy if their boost controller and ECU don\'t work together (unless there\'s one on the way?? perhaps with a colour screen.... Can only hope)

[Prof]

I also just noticed the Profec E-01 (which I was planning to use with the Ultimate) isn\'t compatible!
Nightmare.
Does anyone know of a way to get it to work? perhaps rewiring correct connectors..? Seems a bit of a kick in the arse for Greddy if their boost controller and ECU don\'t work together (unless there\'s one on the way?? perhaps with a colour screen.... Can only hope)

It\'s only the serial comms link that you will lose.  You can still use the E01 as a boost controller - but there are other cheaper units that are equally good for just that function.  You just wont be able to show anything the eManage is doing.