Headlights dont work :(

[Grizzly]

Thats the 11th isn\'t it? I\'m not saying if i\'ll be there becouse that will just Curse it.

[grinder]

yeah it is mate

[Mobilemick]

I`ll find it easier this time  getting me wheels balanced and me trackin done,  so no more shakes at 70mph hopefully,

Oh and me clocks make a loud buzzing noise ,as soon as ignition is on, apart from desolder the buzzer

 any ideas stu ?

Ti
Mick

[grinder]

how long does it buzz for - this is usually a sign that the door is open with the keys in - or you have the door open and the lights on

any of these

right then back to the headlight issues

1 - spent 3 hrs on the car tonight
2 - cant get continuety (sp) to the switch or the relays
3 - mate came over to help ( hes the clever one who knows his stuff )
4 - showed him what happened when you use the probe on the cluster - so i could prove the motors work and all the bulbs
5 - got the FULL beam to work ( using the probe )
6 - after lots of playing and looking and scratching of heads he bridges the light relay to 12v - the lights now work on the switch - so this is pretty cool
7 - we then advanced this to adding 12v to the cluster ( BA ) using the probe - we now get lights to come on , and up , and off etc...
8 - only thing i DIDNT check was to see what the full beam did with the lights down ( why didnt i think of this ?? )
9 - only seeing about 10v on the BA connector and we assume that this isnt enough to switch the relay inside the switch to power the lights
10 - we tested this by taking a wire from BA to RD and the lights didnt rise
11 - put the probe into RD and the lights come up
12 - so in answering my own question 10v isnt enough to raise the headlights !! LOL
13 - found 3 blown fuses and now the indicators work again ( and the lights on buzzer )

SOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

looks like there is a problem in the wiring

the 12v feed from the 30a fuse feeds both the headlight relays AND the switch in the cluster - so it looks like its broken before it splits off

so we have a choice now

1 - add 2 fly wires and fix it in a few hrs
2 - cut back all the harness and try to find the fault

this is where it gets tricky for me - i like the idea of finding the fault and fixing it ( big job cutting all the harness ) - on the other hand a quick fix is a simple fix

if i took this to a garage - they would prob run 2 wires from the fuse the relay and the switch - tell me it works and charge me £££ - and i would prob be happy at this

so why dont i like the idea of me and my mate doing it - im i trying to be tooo strick and make all the wiring look like stock mazda stuff - or should i appreciate that its a 15-16 yrs old car - and 2 extra red wires isnt a problem ??

there is light at the end of this tunnel - im just not sure how many more bends there are in it !! LOL

Stu
( need to find out what the full beam does when the lights are down and the  relay is bridged and 12v applied to the BA feed )

[Mobilemick]

i would recommend pullling the loom apart stu,  it might fix other probs in the future.

Buzzing...

Yeah i noticed me door open light on as well, but all doors closed. it never used to beep before, when the doors were open,?

This has only happenend since me elec friend, tried to fix the rev couner not, said he saw a screw half in, and screwed it in full,  but wont seee him till tommoz,  so wont know which one,

Mick

[grinder]

no idea what your prob is mick - but elec based !! LOL

and the loom - really dont fancy hacking into it to be honest

Stu

[g.miller]

Stu
this guy may be of some use if you need  light parts as he is not far from you
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Mazda-Rx7-turbo-gen2-parts-spares-breaking-DOORS_W0QQitemZ270060949571QQihZ017QQcategoryZ52640QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

[grinder]

thanks grant - that used to be a members car on here

thing is i dont know which part of the loom i need and how far it runs

might be easier just to run 2 extra "live" feeds - this way i know where they are , what they do , and shouldnt fail for the next 20 yrs !!

thanks for the info though

Stu

[Mobilemick]

Speedo packed in as well  So gonna grab them clocks from macclesfield.  and see if it behaves,  desoldered the buzzer,  so no more beeping,

Mick

[grinder]

from the black ebay one ?

[Brett]

The next post on here had better be about working head lights!

[grinder]

sorry brett

not looked at the car for a few days to be honest and i have been working today and tommorrow ( they joy of overtime )

i was waiting for people to comment about me either cutting into the loom or just adding 2 extra wires - but the only person to comment was mick - so was just waiting to see what happened really

Stu

[Mobilemick]

from the black ebay one ?

Naa the one of Grizzly

[g.miller]

Stu
if it was me, i like to keep things simple, so i would try the wire from a live feed first to the motor and only if that worked would  i try tracing the loom back or even put a new feed as you said.
:wave

[grinder]

didnt realise griz had some clocks ??

and Grant - we have already tested it with temp wires and this is the only way to get the lights to work - so like i said 2 choices

1 - rip apart loom and find it
2 - wire in 2 wires

humm ?

Stu