Apexi or greddy

[GaseJo]

Hi all

I have been advised to get a apexi power fc + commander fitted to my RX
What i was wondering is, Would a greddy E-manage piggy back unit do the same thing as i had one fitted to my skyline along with the Greddy profec E01
and i would like to go the same route but i dont know if it is a good way to go or just get the Apexi. Any thoughts on this.

Cheers Garith.

[D1 WTF]

strut brace is still available, i am assuming you want it posted (£50 or collection is £40).
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i will start wrapping it up.

[ScuttleRX]

Apexi has the bonus of every rotary tuner being able to use it and have a lot of experience with it, not sure same can be said of the Greddy...?

Although you might need to get one quick, talk of production ending soon!

[GaseJo]

Cheers,

Will be £50 for posting ,tomorrow night.

P.S any info on my topic?

Cheers Garith.

[Grizzly]

i think it should be PFC (ease and every one knows it), Microtech (Good ems), Motech (the best but you pay for it)

Depends on alot of things, I do like the idea of fitting a new Loom (10 year old wires tend to go Brital and cause Problems) but if you are watching the pennys you can\'t go wrong with a Power Fc.

[ScuttleRX]

When you buy a Motec does it come with the new loom (think they need a different one?), or is that an extra you need to add to the price?

[GaseJo]

Cheers Grizzly,

Its not so much watching the penny\'s as it is i like the greddy profec as it is all in one boost controller fuel mapper ect ect just wondering really if it would do the same as a pfc?

Cheers Garith.

[D1 WTF]

i would go with what everyone else said, all the specialists map the PFC\'s, not saying they cant map others but i have only heard of them mapping PFC so for that reason it might just be easier.

[Grizzly]

When you buy a Motec does it come with the new loom (think they need a different one?), or is that an extra you need to add to the price?

If you Buy a Motec they usaly come as a Kit (EMS, Loom etc) but saying that i\'ve never owned one so i could\'nt tell you for sure. But i know Microtechs Come with a Loom or a Plug and Play loom.

[Grizzly]

Cheers Grizzly,

Its not so much watching the penny\'s as it is i like the greddy profec as it is all in one boost controller fuel mapper ect ect just wondering really if it would do the same as a pfc?

Cheers Garith.

Nope, PFC is a Fuel Computer the Profect is a Boost Controler, PFC is just good for fuel, you can run your Boost of it but there crap for that, Profect B 2 is the daddy of Boost controlers, they are made for one Job... To control Boost.

[Grizzly]

i would go with what everyone else said, all the specialists map the PFC\'s, not saying they cant map others but i have only heard of them mapping PFC so for that reason it might just be easier.

If you use it all day every day your going to be able to map it better than an EMS that you have to read the Manual, At the end of the day its not the EMS its who is setting it up and the experiance they have with it.

This is why people like WGT/Reworx with there Rollers and people that are dedicated to setting RX7\'ns up get people travling 100\'s of miles to have there cars set up by some one in the no rather that risking there local tuner who does\'nt realy know what they are doing and may set your rotary up like a Boinger (OOOOp\'s sorry mate you need a new motor)

[GaseJo]

Nope, PFC is a Fuel Computer the Profect is a Boost Controler, PFC is just good for fuel, you can run your Boost of it but there crap for that, Profect B 2 is the daddy of Boost controlers, they are made for one Job... To control Boost.

Hi Grizzly,

I can see what you are saying that a unit that does one thing is going to be more reliable than a multi task unit, But with the Profec E01 Linked to the Greedy E-Manage via a data cable you are able to Fuel Map, Air Map, Injector cycles and of course boost control & more all through the screen & control unit so would this not be a all in one package that can be adjusted to the different way you drive by changing the on board memory card with different settings mapped onto each.

Cheers Garith.

[Grizzly]

Yes but is the Greddy Fuel computer as good as the Apexi? I am not sure if they have split Ign timing on them? or OMP driver?

[Prof]

You don\'t need the OMP drive as the stock ECU still does that.

The eManage blue (which is the one that works with Profec E01) allows injector adjustment, but not ignition timing control for rotaries.

The eManage Ultimate allows much better control of Injectors, as well as seperate Ignition for leading and trailing.  It also offers an A/F target map when used with wideband O2 sensor - you can set your desired target A/F for different load points and have the eManage tune the map for you.  Pretty cool. :cool

It also offers support for additional sub injectors - upto 4 additional injectors, or you can use the channels to drive relays, solenoids, pumps etc.

You can also map out the MAF sensor completey, allowing a straight through pipe into your turbo\'s.

Down side is the Ultimate does not work directly with Profec E01.

I have an FC and will be using the Ultimate with a Profec B spec II boost controller.  There are a few folks in the US who have got this to work - I aim to be one of the first in the UK.

[Grizzly]

Out of Intrest how much would the Ultimate go for? is it competitive?