Greddy elbow with injector holders, AIC, 2 x550cc injectors, etc PROJECT.

Started by ScuttleRX, November 05, 2006, 01:56:08 PM

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allstaruk


Warthog

Sound like you three need to get together for a mini-meet in a pub or mid-point someones garage and work it all out. Necessity is the mother of all invention. Good luck lads.:Thumbs-up
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allstaruk

Might be an idea, I\'m just annoyed that I put the bloody rats nest/solenoid rack fuel pipes etc back on today as I thought I wasn\'t gonna need to take out my primary\'s anymore to swap them to 850\'s and then I came home to find I din\'t have this and now I\'m wishing I didn\'t have to take it all out again to get to the primarys.

Al

ScuttleRX

Quote from: WarthogSound like you three need to get together for a mini-meet in a pub or mid-point someones garage and work it all out. Necessity is the mother of all invention. Good luck lads.:Thumbs-up


:Thumbsup!  Cheers for the moderating John, if the other guys are ok with it you can wipe out first part of thread if you like as theres nothing for sale anymore, could leave remainder as an additonal injector discussion thread?

I think we have definately found a hole in the market, I shall keep my eyes open guys for any more AI elbows or other solutions.

I like the look of the manifold on the rx7club, one of the things that made me hesitate with the elbow (for fuel) is the distribution, there were talks of the rear rotor ending up with more (or less, I cant remember) fuel than the the front.

ScuttleRX

Quote from: allstarukMight be an idea, I\'m just annoyed that I put the bloody rats nest/solenoid rack fuel pipes etc back on today as I thought I wasn\'t gonna need to take out my primary\'s anymore to swap them to 850\'s and then I came home to find I din\'t have this and now I\'m wishing I didn\'t have to take it all out again to get to the primarys.

Al

Sorry Al! Didnt realise you had gone to that much trouble, double apologies and 4 beers at rotorstock!

Take it your going the 4 x 850 route now?

Warthog

Have moved this Thread to correct section now lads and altered the Thread name to read;

                      Greddy elbow with injector holders, AIC, 2 x550cc injectors, etc PROJECT.

Good luck lads this sounds interesting.:WaveBye
I\'M ALWAYS IN THE SH*T IT\'S JUST THE DEPTH THAT MAY VARY.

Project Evil seven.:evillaugh

RE:WORX---13b RE engine, Motec M400 Pro ECU, Os Giken 5 speed internals-Gearbox, HKS T51R KAI turbo, With 575 @ Fly, 487.9 @ Wheels @ 1.3bar 420 ftlbs, on PUMP FUEL Sheel V-Power. BUILT & TUNED BY RE:WORX. More work planned..:InLove

REW, Stock Twins, RE:WORX-- British Record, 389.2 @ Wheels -- 03/09/2005.

allstaruk

Quote from: ScuttleRXSorry Al! Didnt realise you had gone to that much trouble, double apologies and 4 beers at rotorstock!

Take it your going the 4 x 850 route now?

I guess so i didn\'t really want to though as i fear its gonna give me a less than smooth cruise, I think i might just add some injectors into the UIM.

Dunno my lifes getting pretty busy now and i just don\'t think i have time to change them.

Al

ScuttleRX

Ive heard of that problem, but ive also spoke to a couple of people running them and they have said the cruise and idle has been mapped out so it is smooth, and they dont have any problems.

Im either going that way myself or 550/1600 route, rumours of hesitation when 1600\'s come online has put me off, but again have heard of people sort this out with some clever mapping. 1600 route would also give plenty of scope for upgrades....I just wish the 1200/1300\'s were reliable, perfect upgrade for a twin.

allstaruk

I really want to keep my 550 primarys, but I don\'t really want to go for 1680 secondays as its expensive and I have a complete engineering worshop and engineer at my disposal so I\'m hoping to do somthing creative.

Either build a greddy type elbow with aditional injectors like you were selling myslef of weld in some injector holders and to the UIM.

We\'ll discuss further I\'m going boxing, to chill me out after my stressfull day then I\'ll be in a good mood.

Talk in a bit

AL

ScuttleRX

Lol, your so going to be picturing me on the punch bag :)

Like the sound of the UIM idea, speak to ya later

stylus350

I bid 230!  :bandit :Giggle

Seriously though, its about 400 quid for 1680 kit from what I can make out. How much do you think 550 or 700 injectors, injector holders and a welding job? Ive already got a Greddy elbow and would have run them from the Apexi which can be done according to Pip. Are there any other alternatives any one has used?

ScuttleRX

Ha ha, dont start!

Guesstimates

Used injectors, around £30-£100 for pair

Injector holders, not sure,

Welding, not sure either really so not much help! but it looks a simple job, from  looks of mine 2 holes have been drilled then edges filed, then holders just welded around. Im not sure what a welder charges but cant imagine it would take them long at all

Other things you\'d need are a small rail, fuel pipe and injector harness.

How much extra fuel you looking for? Theres a good calculator here if you havent come across it already
http://rx7.com/cgi-local/3rdgencalc.cgi

Lets you plug in loads of different combos including additionals

ScuttleRX

http://www.nolimitmotorsport.com/prod/13900451

Found these, available in steel or alum, around $30 bucks a pop, quite a few sites came up when I googled \'greddy injector holder\'

stylus350

Quote from: ScuttleRXHa ha, dont start!

Guesstimates

Used injectors, around £30-£100 for pair

Injector holders, not sure,

Welding, not sure either really so not much help! but it looks a simple job, from  looks of mine 2 holes have been drilled then edges filed, then holders just welded around. Im not sure what a welder charges but cant imagine it would take them long at all

Other things you\'d need are a small rail, fuel pipe and injector harness.

How much extra fuel you looking for? Theres a good calculator here if you havent come across it already
http://rx7.com/cgi-local/3rdgencalc.cgi

Lets you plug in loads of different combos including additionals

Brill calc dude! Thanks. Forgot about rail, harness. Larger kit is looking not so bad value now I think.

Am looking for circa 500fly so probably 1680\'s. Dont know if that means I have to go to 850 primaries yet. Its daily driven so im striving to keep it useable.

ScuttleRX

You should be alright with 550/1680, I reckon I shall end up with that, apparently should give you a nice idle and cruise as your keeping the small primaries, there is talk of a stumble when injectors come online (partial throttle not WOT), but can be mapped out from what I hear by adjusting transistion points and things like that.

Although saying that 850 primaries wouldnt hurt if your going for 500 fly :) Just dont think it will be a necessity

Only my opinion though, fuelling seems to provide fuel for a rich debate!