Similar but so different.....

[D1 WTF]

I think a pair of ganador mirrors would of finished it off nicely.

yep that is what i was thinking i love ganador mirrors

shafter- it aint a rex but as mr2\'s go it looks pretty sweet.  another one to put in the carpeted garage, lol

[shafster]

yes sir indeed.

need to sell something soon as i have no xmas money..... but i do have 6 nice motors

[D1 WTF]

i can understand 2 or 3 but six, you loon!  (dad mode on) you can only drive one at a time (dad mode off)  but it is nice to have some spares, lol

[JapSceneUK.co.uk]

Is shea genuine TRD model bud?

[DRAGON]

Copies never do look as good as the originals. Wavy panels are a telltale sign and easy damage due to lack of panel thickness is another problem to be found later....

Cheapo rip offs don\'t do anyone any favours... Most Japanese specialists are wary of supplying kits to the UK as they know someone will make a copy eventually and sell their hard work as being as good as the originals... When in fact they\'re certainly not.

I have one cheapo copy part on my car. The Scoot bonnet which came from Rotaryextreme.com. Compared to an original, quality is only around 50% as good. Hadn\'t known it wasn\'t original when I bought it.... Was a bit green 5 years ago..

Miguel.

I totally agree Miguel, but you have to bear in mind that the increasing majority of UK RX7 owners are ebay loving pikeys who love buy cheap RX7s and cant afford to maintain them.

Where as in Japan they have a GENUINE love of the rotary and FD and generally would not insult the car by using cheap replica parts. The UK market dictates cheaper bodykits etc, but then complains when the quality is not perfect!

Expecting supercar performance for vauxhal Nova money, is crazy. Look on the skyline forum etc, and there are countless people building serious cars, here we only have a handfull.

[mattmaclennan]

Couldn\'t agree more. The amount of FD\'s falling to pieces through neglect is incredible let alone owners not getting their wedge out to modify their cars. Considering how cheap it is to have a complete engine rebuild and get good fun power out of an FD, I am always amazed when people moan about the running cost.

Must be said there are a few owners out there that understand the relationship between car condition and money spent, but they are getting harder to find these days.

[shafster]

i can understand 2 or 3 but six, you loon!  (dad mode on) you can only drive one at a time (dad mode off)  but it is nice to have some spares, lol

lol, one is my company car so i guess that dont count. the others, well i need to get rid of at least 3 of them. so far i have a supra aerotop, mitsi gto, mr2 turbo, mr2 na and the rx. all of them modified and pleasant on the eye

Is shea genuine TRD model bud?

she\'s a replica mate, but a great fitment.

[RX7 R2]

Hay guys I see where your coming from with some owners not wanting to spend a penny on them but someone needs to stick up for us poor guys.

I\'m no millionaire like some of you seem to be but I do like to look after my motor. I always try to fix her first to save money but If I can\'t It\'d never go to some cowboy back street It would be a hard save and send It to some specialist.

With ref to tuning them I think these big horse power cars are amazing but I know I couldn\'t afford to spend that sort of money on a car and would never try to do It on the cheap. I do want some low mods, exhaust (thats on order) etc. If I do see some nice parts you guys are fed up with that are good quality in good condition I\'m not going to turn them down at a good price. This doesn\'t mean I\'m going to buy charlies cheapos of of Flebay.

The point is give us some slack, we\'re trying.:Hammer



Go on then, whoes gonna :flamed me first.

[gsb876]

Fair comments all but sometimes if you dont have the money what can you do you cant expect everyone to have awesome RX\'s or Skylines as the money just isn\'t there.

I think its wrong to look down on the cheaper RX owners as its all they can afford and try their best.

But then again very valid point by Ross if you buy the cheapo kits and then complain what did you expect :flamed

[Ada7]

Burn-out kit looks awsome in the pics, but in the flesh i thought it looked pretty poor.

Couldn\'t agree more with this mate. Have seen a couple of them now at shows and for the prise of the kit (over 3k for a genuine one) i dont think its all that good.

Have do disagree with you totally on the \'ebay loving pikeys\' comment though! Just because some of us dont have loads of money for huge turbos and wild orignial body kits doesn\'t mean that we cant enjoy are cars and look after them as best we can.
Its is true that you only get what you pay for in this life though. I\'m sure we\'d be all so much happier and all have hugely modded rx\'s if the products were as cheap here as they seem to be in Japan.
Just my 2 pence worth

Adam

[DRAGON]

I\'m not saying everyone should try and go for big turbos etc. I\'m saying that it is better to do things properly, rather than cheaply, after all that is what is giving the RX7 a bad name. From cheap rebuilds to to dodgy ebay turbo kits.

Some FDs are 15 years old, with very complecated twin turbo systems, maintenance is essential, but often overlooked. which is a shame because when they are looked after can be very reliable.

[Ada7]

Yeh fair, comment mate :Thumbs-up

Adam

[Kieron]

I\'m not saying everyone should try and go for big turbos etc. I\'m saying that it is better to do things properly, rather than cheaply, after all that is what is giving the RX7 a bad name. From cheap rebuilds to to dodgy ebay turbo kits.

Some FDs are 15 years old, with very complecated twin turbo systems, maintenance is essential, but often overlooked. which is a shame because when they are looked after can be very reliable.

I think it was a fair comment, I hate those eBay cars, you can tell that from rims, to poor fitting kits and lights it was all brought on eBay. Ultralite rims are my hate :flamed

[Newera]

There\'s a misconception right there... Products aren\'t cheap in Japan. Genuine quality costs money to make and supply. Simple as that.

To give an example, we typically charge just 15% over retail cost in Japan + carriage to supply original JDM bodykits delivered to your door in UK, including RE-Amemiya, Pan Speed, etc. We sell a few kits, to people who know the difference between poor copies and genuine quality.

Along comes someone, makes a cheapo copy (Which isn\'t usually even close to the quality of original) and sells it at a cheaper price, or knocks it out as an original...

Problem is, fake copies are made from (at best!) bucks moulded from original FRP panels or at worst - from panels that have already been copied many times. You\'ll find fit, warping, panels of incorrect size, wavyness, etc. on fake panels, as well as inconsistent thickness, which may lead to cracking, etc. later.

At the point originals are no longer available because the market\'s damaged by copies, the original designer / manufacturer in Japan has lost out very significantly on further sales abroad and gets nothing but a kick in the teeth in thanks for making such a great design.

This is a major problem for the likes of C West, Veilside, Bomex, etc. and the very reason these companies aren\'t doing so well any more and are reluctant to directly supply anybody abroad. In the meantime, companies getting cheap quality copies made, are encouraged by sales to do it more... and you end up with ill fitting bodykits of questionable quality.

Then you start getting turbo copies with cheap truck turbos substituting the quality high performance items, cheap intercooler kits, etc, etc.

Even Nemesis (I\'m refering to previous owners, not the current ones) were making copies of Veilside kits - but then selling them as originals. How do I know this? Because I know Veilside\'s people personally and they told me there were no further sales to Nemesis after their initial order as UK distributors for Veilside.

Fit rubbish quality and you\'ll have a rubbish car in the end. It\'s okay - if that\'s what you want, but don\'t be under the illusion you\'re getting the same quality as genuine items and building a dream car by buying cheapo bodykits...

I\'m not rich, either - but I do love my cars so I spent a disproportionate amount on them. My RX-7\'s cost me over £30,000 to build in Japan (Over 5 years) even though I\'m in the car & parts trade.... The only fake part on there\'s the frankly rubbish quality Scoot Carbon bonnet. Koseki San of Scoot had a right giggle when he saw it on my car and checked the quality!!.... Had I known myself copy Scoot bonnets were so bad compared to originals, I\'d have paid the difference and bought a real one! But I had thought I was buying quality - I was duped by the supplier in the USA.

Learnt my lesson though - Our race RX-7 being built in the UK has a real one. It doesn\'t need bonnet pins to stop it curling upwards at speed, or protect against the bonnet hook snapping off at speed with potentially disasterous consequences.

I\'d never fit a copy turbo kit, as these units aren\'t specifically designed & developed for high performance use. I wouldn\'t use cheap Chinese wheels on my RX-7, because being gravity cast as opposed to forged through stamping at 3000 tonnes, they\'re heavy, brittle and not made with the ideal sizes and offsets. I wouldn\'t fit a cheap intercooler kit because I know poor quality items can leak, potentially damaging the turbo as a result of over working and I wouldn\'t fit cheap Autometer gauges, because they\'re not that accurate. I could go on..... but I think you might get my drift!

I\'m proud of the cars & parts we supply, because everything\'s genuine in what we sell and because we\'re supporting the specialist companies that made RX-7\'s greater for us to enjoy in the first place.

Rant over.

Miguel.

[Kevin]

here\'s my new mr2

I saw that you were bidding on this on ebay.  How much did you end up getting it for?