Fitted PFC & Killed a Fireblade

AtomicRex · October 31, 2006, 03:49:52 PM

Having ridden bikes for many years and spent 4 years instructing on a circuit, I also know how to ride a bike. But I still find it rare for a bike to keep with me, let alone beat me in a good car.

Admittedly traffic can get the better of a car, but in the bends and braking the car has it every time.

The Ring is a good point in case for this.....there are very few bikers that will hassle me out there....in fact its much the opposite

Newera · October 31, 2006, 04:22:37 PM

Quote from: AtomicRexHaving ridden bikes for many years and spent 4 years instructing on a circuit, I also know how to ride a bike. But I still find it rare for a bike to keep with me, let alone beat me in a good car.

Admittedly traffic can get the better of a car, but in the bends and braking the car has it every time.

The Ring is a good point in case for this.....there are very few bikers that will hassle me out there....in fact its much the opposite

The last time you were out on a bike riding hard, did you find many cars could keep up? Knowing you can ride a big bike well, I\'d suspect not many!

I\'m sure you\'ll also agree, a lot of bigger bikes in the UK are ridden by people without a lot of experience (Born again bikers!), so they\'re rarely ridden to their true potential.

I suspect not many cars have had the better of Cannibal on his SB6-R Bimota 1100.... Rich is one of the quickest bike riders I had the pleasure of riding with regularly on weekends, before I left and moved to Japan in \'98....

:WaveBye

Miguel.

Newera · October 31, 2006, 04:43:14 PM

Quote from: cannibalHi Migs

I struggled to keep up with you at times when I was on your SP2 on that trip to the mountains, but you\'re right, I don\'t think a car has ever gotten the best of me on the Bim. It\'s all down to confidence and knowing the road.

Rich

...Your first time on an SP2 and first time on a bike on Japanese mountain roads, wearing my gear. Wasn\'t your bike and you weren\'t at all used to any of it.

The SP2\'s capable of 270 + km/h and accelerates quicker, had you been used to the bike, it would have killed the rex... Corners no, as the rex was wearing super sticky S tyres, etc. but I was carrying Yuko in the back of the rex too, remember!

I think I rode the bike back that night and promptly left you, the girls and Dan behind after we swapped... But you weren\'t trying very hard...

Miguel

BlitzBoy · October 31, 2006, 04:45:08 PM

Ok so picture the scene. The "Ring" as the track then a 1 litre bike with good rider and 500bhp track prepped RX7 with a good driver, who would win?

AtomicRex · October 31, 2006, 04:59:06 PM

I would be happy to take on a good rider with just my 350bhp car

And unless it was one of a few I think I would win!

20B_boy · October 31, 2006, 05:07:29 PM

Didnt see u at the Ring a few months back when we went and u said u were going? You been since AR?

Newera · October 31, 2006, 05:09:11 PM

If you compared lap times of a professionally ridden sports bike with sorted suspension, brakes, tyres, etc. and a professionally driven track prep\'d RX-7 of high power, I think you might be surprised at how little difference there would be on track times.

Miguel.

AtomicRex · October 31, 2006, 05:11:55 PM

I did go back...but we were having problems with the suspension and oil

Unfortunately due to an oversight......one of the oil feed pipes had started to perish so we were getting really bad problems with oil getting on the turbo. This however has now been sorted as of today!!!

I will be back there next year though, but in a very different car

BlitzBoy · October 31, 2006, 05:12:18 PM

even on the Ring given its bends? I am inclined to think a car would have it on the ring by a fair margin

AtomicRex · October 31, 2006, 05:14:39 PM

It is very difficult to get the full power down on the bigger bikes, especially through the corners, this is where the cars come into their own. Braking is a lot more efficient as you have 4 large lumps of rubber instead of one very small tyre patch on the front wheel....Dont get me wrong the brakes are very powerful, but a set up car should out brake a bike

Newera · October 31, 2006, 05:18:26 PM

Never been to the \'Ring myself, but if it\'s all bends, it may be cars are faster there. There\'s always going to be situations which are more suited to either cars or bikes.

Here\'s one for you. On real roads, with real road and traffic conditions in the dry, no matter how much a car tries, a bike will always be faster point to point.

Miguel

Warthog · October 31, 2006, 05:36:42 PM

With my T51 set up the only fun I get is with bikes. They hate me as they can\'t get away or get blown away.
I loooooooooooooooooooooooooooooove it.:flamed

Bathurst · October 31, 2006, 07:15:30 PM

Warthog,

How did you do in your stock twin set up against bikes?

Tariq.

Warthog · October 31, 2006, 07:58:19 PM

I was running 400 at the rear wheels at 1.4 bar in the end and yes I was blowing them away, but I would not have liked to sustain that boost the way I sustain it now. I am only running 0.95 bar at just under 400 rwbhp but I must admit it feels a different type of power. You can feel that the turbo just wants to go for more boost and keep going up that steep map line.
I now have the Motec ecu to open up the potential of the T51 and it will be fitted in Jan together with a full 4" exhaust and some other goodies. I will only be happy when I am driving my street FD around with 500 safe ponys at the rear wheels. Some people say to me that they just can\'t get there heads around having that much power. But it is all relative, you get used to it and the car is set up to take that power as well as stop on a button. HTH.