Ram Induction on my T51 via Scoot bonnet.

[Warthog]

Yes Stu,PWR from RE:WORX as they import them, can\'t remember how much as I\'ve had it a few years now, check out the link above,:Thumbs-up  if you run the water via a dry ice box then intake temps are very very low.:wave

[stuart wizy]

just what the doctor ordered!
http://www.pwr.com.au/pwr/index.asp

[stuart wizy]

check the air to ice with co2 inlet:Thumbs-up
super chilled, these must make heaps more power in the summer on the strip.
Turn your engine into freezer unit with co2!!

[Warthog]

The possibilities are endless.:cool

[ScuttleRX]

What are the charge coolers like for track work then? See the site states them as designed for drag and street, just wondering if they hold up on the track.

What are they like inside? Is basically a straight tube surrounded by the barrel water jacket?

TBH i\'ve never really considered these but im getting more and more interested

BTW bit more on topic, your ram air\'s looking good hog glad your getting some good results with it

[John Yorke]

What are the charge coolers like for track work then? See the site states them as designed for drag and street, just wondering if they hold up on the track.

What are they like inside? Is basically a straight tube surrounded by the barrel water jacket?

TBH i\'ve never really considered these but im getting more and more interested

BTW bit more on topic, your ram air\'s looking good hog glad your getting some good results with it

After a lap of the Ring running 1bar and 400+ ponies + WI you see 25-28 on boost dropping to less than ambiant:eek

The core inside is honeycombed and if well plumbed you get zero heat soak + they are shiney

[ScuttleRX]

Sounds very good I think that would be attainable on a well set-up FMIC/WI system as well though, or at least close. Im looking for the thing thats going to sway me one way or the other.

I think I asked this somewhere before but cant remember where, whats the pressure drop like, is it a lot less than the stock IC system, or one of the more efficient FMIC

[antnicuk]

there are less bends, and shorter inlet track so less lag (slighly) better cooling for the rad also.

[Warthog]

On my set up my pressure bar drop is 0.1 of a bar.
IC can drop massive figs.
It\'s up to the individual as to which way you go.
I went this way as it was good and a hell of a lot cheaper than an IC.
 If I had to change I would only go for a V-Mount.
The problem with them is that you get high engine temps. I understand that RE:WORX have solved that problem and found the balance between the two. It is only when we and tuners do R&D that things move forward. :wiggle

[ScuttleRX]

Thats for the info gents, the pressure drop (or lack of) sounds good.

So whats the reason for the high engine temps? Is it extra heat from the rad that cools the water? (You were referring to CC not V mount? )

[stuart wizy]

I was watching the guy who won ten of the best this year on the timed circuit with the cossy powered dax rush kit car, this was running a charge cooler with ice water as i saw him keep filling his tank with blocks of ice between each run on the circuit.

With a co2 feed pumped around a charge cooler, this would work like a fridge because of the cooling propertys of co2 pumped through the viens of the charge cooler, look at how a fridge works or air conditioning works.
so in theory the co2 should keep the charge cooler ice cold as long as the gas is being pumped through it.

[ScuttleRX]

Yeah the co2 feed sounds great, especially for drag days and the like.

Where was the bloke keeping the ice?

[stuart wizy]

the guy was keeping the ice in a cool box.
My mate who races altered drags takes his caravan with a small freezer powered by a geny for the weekend meetings, for keeping is inlet manifold cool.
I bet u could use the std ac pump to feed the charge cooler, nick the inlet and outlet of the chiller and conect to the charge cooler.

[antnicuk]

only problem with that is the small amount of bhp you get with colder charge you loose with the air con system on.  Unless you keep chucking cold water in it you have to keep any cold substance cold, which means another kind of rad.

[stuart wizy]

thats true mate, u wouldnt need co2 for drag racing anyway, im thinking of blasting round a circuit for half an hour, surely 5minutes or more and the ice would melt without the co2.
it must work well on the track though
on the fd the ac rad is in front of the main rad so u could use it, its got to be worth a try for the circuit boys out there.
My fd was awfull on track with std mount trust ic. every 5 laps round ty croes i had to slow down to cool intakes and water temps! using std twins at 11psi though.
Im definatly looking into that ice cooler for my fc:Thumbs-up