Ram Induction on my T51 via Scoot bonnet.

Started by Warthog, October 18, 2006, 03:50:50 PM

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John Yorke

I think the way to prove the ram air is to try this with the WI turned off that will fudge the results IMO interesting consept Mr Hog:Thumbs-up Would have much prefured a more direct air feed [without the extra bends] Just an observation:Laugh

Warthog

Yes John, we will be looking to get rid of the bends if poss, this is only the fist fixing. As far as the WI is concerned all the major drops were without any boost so WI was not a factor, so on that note well happy. What I was well pleased with was no heat soak whatsoever in traffic.:wave
I\'M ALWAYS IN THE SH*T IT\'S JUST THE DEPTH THAT MAY VARY.

Project Evil seven.:evillaugh

RE:WORX---13b RE engine, Motec M400 Pro ECU, Os Giken 5 speed internals-Gearbox, HKS T51R KAI turbo, With 575 @ Fly, 487.9 @ Wheels @ 1.3bar 420 ftlbs, on PUMP FUEL Sheel V-Power. BUILT & TUNED BY RE:WORX. More work planned..:InLove

REW, Stock Twins, RE:WORX-- British Record, 389.2 @ Wheels -- 03/09/2005.

Rixio

John

My intakes are 34-36\'c in traffic and 29\'c at 70mph...mine doesnt run WI or ram air. Iv taken the drivers sidelight out to vent air at speed but other than that its just engine air...these are pfc readings btw

Warthog

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What turbo/ic etc are you running mate.

Ref the traffic jam temp, what I was getting at was there was no heat soak. So if I had ran into the jam at 31 it may well have just sat there at 31.

The T51 is one big turbo and not many people are running one so I\'m in the dark on intake temps using the charge cooler set up.
What I did find very interesting was the drops in degs. How would the Scoot bonnet with this ram air help out someone with a V-Mount, would it drop there temps even more !!!
I\'M ALWAYS IN THE SH*T IT\'S JUST THE DEPTH THAT MAY VARY.

Project Evil seven.:evillaugh

RE:WORX---13b RE engine, Motec M400 Pro ECU, Os Giken 5 speed internals-Gearbox, HKS T51R KAI turbo, With 575 @ Fly, 487.9 @ Wheels @ 1.3bar 420 ftlbs, on PUMP FUEL Sheel V-Power. BUILT & TUNED BY RE:WORX. More work planned..:InLove

REW, Stock Twins, RE:WORX-- British Record, 389.2 @ Wheels -- 03/09/2005.

Rixio


arrouk

john, just for reference what temps were you seeing before your intake mod?

matt

Warthog

Full boost about 45deg so a vast improvement, but you must take into account the vast size of a T51 and the heat it makes.
I\'M ALWAYS IN THE SH*T IT\'S JUST THE DEPTH THAT MAY VARY.

Project Evil seven.:evillaugh

RE:WORX---13b RE engine, Motec M400 Pro ECU, Os Giken 5 speed internals-Gearbox, HKS T51R KAI turbo, With 575 @ Fly, 487.9 @ Wheels @ 1.3bar 420 ftlbs, on PUMP FUEL Sheel V-Power. BUILT & TUNED BY RE:WORX. More work planned..:InLove

REW, Stock Twins, RE:WORX-- British Record, 389.2 @ Wheels -- 03/09/2005.

arrouk

i understand that but i was just interested in a comparison.
it means more to me to have a comparison rather than just a temp stated, but that is a massive improvement. well done and :god for trying something new.
also have you run that tub on a fmi and what temps did you see then?

thanks matt

Warthog

No mate, the only fmic I had was when I first had the FD, then I went on the quest for the British Record for BHP out of the Twins and used the charge cooler system to do it.
My quest with this RE engine and T51 is as yet for 500bhp @ the wheels, but I was doing a lot of drag racing before and the charge cooler was ideal for it. However, I\'m now doing a lot more track work and I\'m either going to have to perfect the perfect charge cooler system, which with the other mod I\'ve done to it by plumbing in an AST removing all the air from the water, I\'m well on the way to doing( last mod I have worked out on the cc system is a twin fan slimline rad for the cc water cooling) or change to the RE:WORX V-Mount system.
I\'M ALWAYS IN THE SH*T IT\'S JUST THE DEPTH THAT MAY VARY.

Project Evil seven.:evillaugh

RE:WORX---13b RE engine, Motec M400 Pro ECU, Os Giken 5 speed internals-Gearbox, HKS T51R KAI turbo, With 575 @ Fly, 487.9 @ Wheels @ 1.3bar 420 ftlbs, on PUMP FUEL Sheel V-Power. BUILT & TUNED BY RE:WORX. More work planned..:InLove

REW, Stock Twins, RE:WORX-- British Record, 389.2 @ Wheels -- 03/09/2005.

stuart wizy

really good idead there hog, should get blasted with plenty of cold air.
On my last fd with a trust std mount ic i cut a piece of ally plate 8mm thick and fitted it between the ic and the rad which stopped heat soak when driving in slow trafic, you could try this with yours to try to stop some of the heat rising from your rad directly up and onto your shroud round your filter if u get heat soak when diving in slow trafic.
when I fitted the plate it drasticly reduced intakes especially when car was left parked up for a while after a run cause the heat couldnt rise directly up and onto my ic, im sure it would be the same principle with your air filter setup and you have the advantage of having more room to fit it cause your charge cooler is well out of the way.

Warthog

I\'M ALWAYS IN THE SH*T IT\'S JUST THE DEPTH THAT MAY VARY.

Project Evil seven.:evillaugh

RE:WORX---13b RE engine, Motec M400 Pro ECU, Os Giken 5 speed internals-Gearbox, HKS T51R KAI turbo, With 575 @ Fly, 487.9 @ Wheels @ 1.3bar 420 ftlbs, on PUMP FUEL Sheel V-Power. BUILT & TUNED BY RE:WORX. More work planned..:InLove

REW, Stock Twins, RE:WORX-- British Record, 389.2 @ Wheels -- 03/09/2005.

nikp

QuoteWhat I did find very interesting was the drops in degs. How would the Scoot bonnet with this ram air help out someone with a V-Mount, would it drop there temps even more !!!

I\'m about to get a Scoot bonnet, and have a v-mount. BUT - there aint enough room to do that type of thing. My air filter is stuck in the engine bay, but doesn\'t seem to get any heat soak on a good run: got 25-29 degrees on a good nice (not too fast) run. 60-70mph. I\'m interested to know if the scoot bonnet will lower temps any more, by letting the hot air out.

Warthog

Yes mate I noticed the difference as soon as I fitted it. :Thumbs-up
I\'M ALWAYS IN THE SH*T IT\'S JUST THE DEPTH THAT MAY VARY.

Project Evil seven.:evillaugh

RE:WORX---13b RE engine, Motec M400 Pro ECU, Os Giken 5 speed internals-Gearbox, HKS T51R KAI turbo, With 575 @ Fly, 487.9 @ Wheels @ 1.3bar 420 ftlbs, on PUMP FUEL Sheel V-Power. BUILT & TUNED BY RE:WORX. More work planned..:InLove

REW, Stock Twins, RE:WORX-- British Record, 389.2 @ Wheels -- 03/09/2005.

nikp


stuart wizy

how much did you give for the charge cooler hog? is it the ausy pwr one?
they save so much room and stop all that heat soak, really short pipework from turbo aswell.
I might have to purchase one for the old fc drag car:)
imagine your intake temp with ice water pumping round that thing before you stage.
proper chilled Id say!!
the ausies swear by the barrel charge coolers for drag racing