SWAP from S5 to S4

Started by McPie, August 28, 2006, 10:29:58 AM

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McPie

Hello all,
 
I have two cars:
one is clear of rust well painted, but without engine
http://mcpie.fotopic.net/c644147.html
 
the other one it TII full of rust but deam good engine:Viking
http://mcpie.fotopic.net/c991527.html
 
I want to put everything from S5 to S4 also to install FD LSD Differencial.
 
I want to ask if some did that before what should I know about swap like that. Do any one has fotos or other type of info?
 
P.S. I\'ve lookd and found anywhere same thread  :o
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FD3SNuttah

lol i done this one man - its a fair bit of work - TBC - ill type out what i did later.

McPie

thanx a lot waiting for your reply
regarding thi swap
 
Regards
McPie
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FD3SNuttah

#3
ok yes it can be done

now you have two options - you must decide which way is best for you.

1. Remove all aternator / manifold / turbo / loom - i.e anything attached to engine and then swap these between s4 > s5 engines. then you wont have to worry about wiring so much. this method basically fools s4 ecu into thinking it is s4 still but has s5 block - apparantly it runs ok? but i am not convinced.

2. this method you dont have to change over engine ancilaries. you swap engines (it is a very simple job really) then you must tie s5 engine loom to s4 this is a where the transplant gets difficult. you change over your s5 ECU into your s4. if you go this way let me know then i will send you some wiring diagrams.

if you choose the second option then let me know buddy.#

can i have the instrument cluster from the red car please!!!

McPie

propably I\'ll swap engine with whole wiring and put S5 ECU into S4 shell
 
As I understoot I choosed 2nd option.
 
What do you mean
"can i have the instrument cluster from the red car please!!!"
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FD3SNuttah

good choice. as i think it would be impossible to take everything off the engines and not expect something to snap / break!

i was looking at the pictures of your Red t2 - i want those white dials you have (speedo) thats in the red T2!

is the yellow mazda a t2 or an EGi?

McPie

yello EGI as I said yellow is empty. I take everything from s5 red shell and install into yellow s4 shell :)
 
that should take a litlle time :D I also have greddy e-manage attached to my TII. so engine gearbox driveshaft TII ECU TII wiring and all stuff will be placed in to yellow shell ;)
 
those white are ugly :D simple paper sticked to spydometer and tachometer :D
 
if look form far few it looks nice , but look a little bit closer it is peace of **** :/
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FD3SNuttah

LOL nice one buddy - it had me convinced!!!!

anyway - i have the diagrams for t2 into egi i think -

you have to mate - engine loom to chassis loom as existing s4 chassis loom will not fit onto t2 ecu.

if you transfer ALL wiring then that might take VERY long time as wires going all over the place!

McPie

pls send wire diagram I\'ll see maybe I\'ll stay with N/A wires
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FD3SNuttah



here is the diagram i used along with FSM for both cars, i assume you already have the factory service manuals.

the emissions harness is the plug right up the side of the  dash on the side "kick" panel. your injectors get power from here.

the engine loom stays attached to the engine just thread it through the firewall.

if you need to know anything else then post here.

McPie

I\'ve lost :-/
 
I tryed to instal lsd from FD and evertyging was nice till
 
I tryed to connect drive shaft
 
it looks like conection parameters are diferent.
 
has any one added FD LSD to S5 S4 was there any problems?
 
BR
Tomas
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McPie

now everything is fine
 
FC 85-89 yea N/A driveshaft perfectly fits to 93 year FD diff

 
flansh from fc fits to fd only need some cut of on special maschene

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McPie

FINITO
 
There was little of hard work, but DID IT :D
hardest was to bolt off old screw.
 

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FD3SNuttah

well done with the prop shaft mate.

now you need to fit the engine! your troubles arent over yet!

McPie

well I still havent started swap S5 to S4
 
it was just lsd swap from fd to fc :)
 
I\'ll wait for 1st snow then I\'ll start S5 to S4 swap :D
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