!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!Overheating!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Rixio]

hi rix,

now i know why you wanted me to call you! Just out of curiousity, have you done the champagne bubble test on the car. It is a pretty good indicator for coolant seal wear as far as i know.


cheers
Nick

Please explain...

Update: Tried to start the car this morning...wouldnt start, no water on the floor, opened the cap to make sure it was full before i tried it put about 300mls in before i did. It popping like a mofo and didnt want to start...was very very loud, didnt sound healthy in the slightest! i tried it twice and left it!

This is seriously stressing me out now...

[kev-yorks]

Sounding like water seal time Rixio!

[Red and Single]

Planet rebuild me thinks

[Rixio]

Its just been rebuilt! 6k Miles ago at the cost of £8k!!!!

[iaint]

Its just been rebuilt! 6k Miles ago at the cost of £8k!!!!

Time to have a chat with the engine builder I think.  It\'s certainly sounding more and more like water ingress

[Red and Single]

Its just been rebuilt! 6k Miles ago at the cost of £8k!!!!

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Jesus Christ thats a lotta money for a rebuild !!
I\'d hope it\'s covered under warranty mate !!

[Rixio]

The warranty ran out the day it overheated the first time @ my mates place...spoke to the builder he said "O no no dont worry about it i\'ll pop a thermostat in the post & we\'l see how you get on" Next day i got a Thermo and a £40 invoice!

[Red and Single]

Oh **** mate, I\'d take it back to your builder as soon as possible and discuss how best to sort your car out, surely if it\'s a reputable builder, they\'ll be sympathetic to water seal failure (if thats what is going on) after only 6 thousand miles.

I\'d expect to be looked after in this scenario.

Sort it in private though, not on here mate.

[Rixio]

Thats why i didnt name the builder

[Kash_]

hope you get everything sorted out Rixio..... sounds a bit strange that your water seals have gone so quick on a new rebuild...

[gsb876]

Spoke with Rixio the other night,

8K rebuild surely must mean the builder SHOULD try to sort the problem without further payment ? Alas i fear it might not be te case but i think rotary specialists SHOULD look after their customers as we are still quite a rare breed

[BlitzBoy]

Normally water seal failure happens only after ten years no matter what the mileage is, but only a year and 6K sounds like a defect in the water seal itself going pourous. Hopefully your builder will sort it for a reasonable agreement

[oldone]

Normally water seal failure happens only after ten years no matter what the mileage is, but only a year and 6K sounds like a defect in the water seal itself going pourous. Hopefully your builder will sort it for a reasonable agreement

or...the motor was run very hot for some time...repeatedly,then they go porous(sp) as well,also not using the correct water seals....:2eek

[Rixio]

Just an update:

Its not actually loosing water into the engine...no combustion gasses were found when the coolant was tested...
Both compression & combustion are fine!

I had got some new fans from Nikp because one of mne was duff...re-wired refitted them and hooked it all back up today...everything working fine...

No overheating but still stiff pipe between filler neck to rad. So its presumably steam, didnt run it long no problems.

Switched off waited 1 hour and tried again, same again was ok but still stiff pipe.

Waited an hour

Went round the block...no boosting from either turbo! It drives as though its just from the throttle body and totally bypassing the turbines & IC?!?! I checked all the pipes again to make sure everything was connected properly couldnt find anything. Will check again tmrw if i get chance...i bet its something simple but still giving me even more stress now!

Its just sat at the top of the drive cooling down atm...

EDIT: THE BROWN WATER IS SOMETHING IN THE ENGINE CAUSING IT THE RUST! WHEN I DRAINED THE SYSTEM INTO A BUCKET IT WAS BROWN...THE NEXT DAY IT HAD SETTLED AT THE BTM AND I REALISED IT WAS RUST!!!!!

[Rixio]

This is what iv done so far...

Checked all the hoses that i can find, for cracks & leaks etc non found
Replaced the thermostat
Replaced the AST
Replaced the fans
Taken the rad off and flushed it
Removed AC rad
Fixed the exhaust
Taken all the intake pipes off and checked them, all fine
Fitted commander so i can see whats going on!


I finished work on it yesterday...fixed the boost leak aswell as overheating! Since i bought it its had a leak that nobody could find and its been boosting at 0.6 bar. I fixed it somehow and what a difference its made! Goes up to 0.9/0.8 now Anyway took it out for a blast & was fine for 2 hours of pure blasting well into 3 figures but as soon as i hit town centre 3 traffic lights and it overheated
It was steady 85c\'-101\'c then it would drop back down so it seemed to be running well. As soon as i hit town at the first lights it went up to 113\'c and dropped back down to 97\'c the 3rd lights it went to 114\'c just before i started moving so i though ok too hot and pulled over & turned it off. It only started leaking 30 seconds after i stopped it went to 118\'c. Intakes were at 53\'c when standing and 34\'c-44\'c on the move.

After letting it cool and refilling it went home and on at around 3k rpm i heard a phhszlpff as though a pipe slit/popped off and i lost 90% of boost

Finally got home at 4am and iv just got up now so
about to go start work on it again

I think the expansion is filling up, but not recirculating the water back into the engine. Also it seems to be leaking from the filler neck, the AST pipe gromit and the release gromit!
Maybe the Waterpump is duff aswell?

Those are the only 2 things it could be at this stage because compression is fine and theres no combustion gasses in the coolant!