Air Con Re-gas

Started by RAW, June 13, 2006, 01:56:26 PM

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Crazy Eddie

Getting mine done next week and the engineer said that really this conversion for £200 etc is a bit of a con as there is a gas that is compatible with the old valves etc.
Now I don\'t know the ins and outs until he comes round but rest assured I will post up what happens as soon as it gets done. He has quoted £50 including checking system for leaks etc so if everything does go well that will save us a bit of dollar as cheapest I\'ve found so far for conversion has been £225 cash price:eek
Cheers
Eddie

Crazy Eddie

Quote from: ro284Topped (or rather re-gassed ) mine last week, diy job, you dont need to convert it at all, you use a gas that is compatable with the R12 system and which is compatable with R12 gas (if there are any dregs left in it)  which is
 R431a  my 1-k can cost £58.75 as i already had the flexy adaptor and tap connector from last year,the system takes 600g, just over half the can, all availiable from Autokool, job done. wonderfull!
Bob
:Thumbs-up  Maybe that is the gas he will use then you type quicker than me it seems:Laugh

oddball

Looked at autokool site, should the gas be R134a and not R431a.  Can\'t see a ref. to R431a
oddball

ro284

Sorry guys edited my post, it\'s R413a
Bob

chris@yoco

this may help somone

before i sold my rex i bought some 12a adaptors to convert to r413a valves
they will help with the new machines that most companies use

i don\'t need these any more so up for grabs £10 plus past for both high and low adaptors email me at chris@yoco.co.uk

Juz

whoa! right, i\'m extra confused now :D bare with me...

so my \'93 air con system has R12 gas, and newer cars post \'93 have R134a gas. i got that :) this is where i\'m getting a bit lost though...

according to most of the replies above, you can get R413a gas and 12a adapters that allow you to top up an R12 system, and the R413a can mix with any R12 dregs fine. the onlything i can find on the Autokool online store from a search for "R413a" is this which i\'m not really sure what it does, but alas i can find no R413a gas to actually do the regassing with?

elsewhere in their online store I found this which claims to be an "R12 to R134a conversion and recharge kit". this implies that for £60 i can have a kit that will allow the new type of gasses to go straight into an old system!? (on a sidenote, i can\'t be clear as to how many grammes of gas this includes? it has 55g of "refridgerant" in one thing and 12oz of refill refridgerant - does this compare to the 600g needed by our cars or the 1kg offered in the other kits?)

next up, i then found for £50, this which i think is the banned R12 "refridgerant service kit"!? 1kg of the stuff. and i quote "no need to retrofit".

then, to top it all off in the Autokool "services" page they say "For the older R12 systems it is now impossible, due to environmental legislation, to offer this gas type. Our solution is to offer a true \'drop in\' replacement to R12 known as RS24. This refrigerant solves the problem and considerable expense of having to completely retrofit your system to work with R134a refrigerant." RS24???? what the hell is this lol!

i am completely and utterly 100% baffled. ffs i might just drive to derby and tell them to do what they like as long as it works and costs me less than £100 :D

Juz

p.s. i just realised i might also be getting confused about gas and refridgerant. are these the same thing?

Quote from: smartsJuz
I had mine done last year, Andrew over at Jimmy\'s organised it for me and it was in the region of £200 or so. That was a old to new gas change.
Seeing as he is Norwich it may be worth giving him a bell to see where he had it done.

thanks si, unfortunately i finished uni and am back home now, a good 3.5 hours drive away! wish i\'d got this sorted whilst i was in norwich would have been a damn sight easier taking it to jimmy\'s.

Crazy Eddie

Hi Juz,
Just to update had my old system regassed with a drop in replacement (no need to convert) for £50.
Works wonderful and freezing cold air coming out only problem is that it is now raining and cold so can\'t feel the benefit! Typical :mad:

oddball

Eddie, Could you post the contact details of who you used for this please.
Cheers
oddball

RAW

Quote from: oddballEddie, Could you post the contact details of who you used for this please.
Cheers

i used these guys...
 
http://www.aircon4everyone.co.uk/AirCon/Contact.aspx
 
don\'t think they can do the drop in thing though, just a re-gas.  not too far from us.

Crazy Eddie

Quote from: oddballEddie, Could you post the contact details of who you used for this please.
Cheers
Yeah Eatwell Refrigeration but are based in Telford number is 01952 502983 if you ever come up this way.

oddball

Cheers Gents,  all logged for futher reference
oddball

oddball

oddball

CraigN

how do you tell if you have R12 ?

RAW

mine has a sticker under the bonnet