desperate cry for help....

[FD3SNuttah]

ok yesterday i took the plugs out gave them a wipe and put them on the end of a HT lead and gave it a crank im getting good spark. bled the clutch ready to go -

got my mate to come over and tow start me i lifted the clutch up at 25 mph but it didnt go.

However it was interesting as now i think the problem is that im not getting any fuel - i can get it to "fire" and start on "easy start" so it must be that im not seeing any fuel come in... I took off the fuel pipe coming from the fuel filter on firewall and i got sprayed with fuel!

so that looks like its not getting past the injectors?

im so close to getting it going now!!

[grinder]

can you hear the injectors clicking at all  ( dont ask me what it means - it says that in the haynes manual ! )

i will have a read now ..

Stu

[FD3SNuttah]

clicking? no but i can hear a faint whirrrring noise coming from round there??

[Grizzly]

you got the fuel lines on the right way around??? The three near the Fuel filter.

[FD3SNuttah]

hmm -

im sure i did have them the right way around? im going to try swapping them round for the hell of it -- im hoping its a minor oversight stopping me lol.

[grinder]

any more news matey

does any one know if the clutch switch would make a difference ?

[kev-yorks]

You may be on to it Stu. This is the car that was being converted from Auto to manual isn\'t it? I wonder if there was a fuel cut to the ECU on the shift as well as isolating the starter motor.
Kevin

[grinder]

thats the one kev

nas mentioned it to me , and i remember reading about it in the haynes manual - but it doesnt actually tell you what the switch does

i suppose i could unplug mine and see if mine start ( must admit i dont like that idea though )

[FD3SNuttah]

yeh grinder! its easy theres a plug in the back of it - very simple procedure! but i thought that clutch switch basically stops it from back firing when changing gears!? dont need that do ya! lol

I have been messing around trying to sort other stuff out.. im gonna go have a bash now before it gets dark i reckon

[FD3SNuttah]

right i swapped the fuel lines over and it didnt work! meh.. im sure this is an electrical problem of some sort.

Grinder kindly sent me a link on how to test the injectors - i will try that in the morning. keep yous posted!

thanks for the help so far guys!

[grinder]

i dont think the clutch switch does much to be honest - in the haynes manual it says that you have to depress the clutch to get the car to crank .. BUT there is a clutch switch sensor on the ECU - if you have the factory service manual - it could be worth checking what voltage it SHOULD have

if its 12v , then just feed it 12v and try it again

see what the injector voltage comes back with

keep us all posted matey

[grinder]

me again

i know this is silly - but have you checked the ECU for error codes ??

if there isnt any then thats great - you can check it with LED\'s i think

have a search round - there are the odd few posts about it

ta

stu

[FD3SNuttah]

i havent got round to checking the ecu for faults or sticking an led on that pin out. if i go that far - where will i find the interpretation table for the fault codes -- FSM?

im the way i figure is

there are three main things that make a rotor not start.

Fuel Ignition Compression - i have two of these - im just getting no fuel -

I know i have fuel getting to the engine bay thats for sure as i still think i smell of petty. lol - so the problem lies between the fuel filter and the chamber so it must be my injectors not squirting. I can get it to pop and fire briefly using starting spray (easy start) so i know that it will run once i get fuel in.  I stuck some a gallon of new fuel in as i know that old fuel degrades after a while.

Im going to have to buy a new multimeter as i have lost one of the probes (i found this multimeter in netto and cost me 3 quid lol) and then check out to see if im getting voltage at the injectors.

thing is i dont want to start ripping off the UIM cos i have no doubt that will cause me more problems!

[FD3SNuttah]

ok after reading through rx7club.com i found a good way to test the injectors.

i have to remove the CAS and then spin it i should hear clicks from the injectors.

Trouble is im not too confident with timing as i dont have the strobe or anything. someone know how to align it properly?

[grinder]

no idea matey

there is someone in the states with the same prob as you - but thats an NA