Will FD Injectors Fit A FC ??/

Started by grinder, April 17, 2006, 06:17:57 PM

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grinder

hiya :D

as per title really - will FD injectors ( 850 ) fit in a FC ??

or would i need a new fuel rail aswell ?

ta

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Grizzly

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nope... There Side feeders...

It depends on what you after doing, they could proberly be made to fit with some messing about but if you have the EMS to run the 850\'s you may be better off buying a pair of 1600\'s cheap and then you don\'t have to mess about with them in the future. Don\'t forget though any diffrent Injectors will need to be set up Properly.

grinder

i take it that the 1200 - 1600 are side feed aswell ???

i take it this is why 720 are soooo expensive .. as they will just drop in

hummm first step and already a spanner in the works :(

im really tempted to fit microtech so the bigger injectors would be ideal - i thought i could drop in FD ones .... pity

i like how you say

better off buying a pair of 1600\'s cheap

i just cant picture this !! LOL


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kev-yorks

Aus rotary do group buys on injectors fairly often Stu from the states mine came from there no extra shipping costs, as mine where packaged up and shipped to me direct.
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Grizzly

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there is not just one type, you can buy upto 1300\'s side feed then you have to buy a Custom rail for the 1600\'s on and FD.

I had 1600\'s in a slightly bored out Sock T2 rail.

1600\'s are proberly the cheapest size to buy New, sounds daft but its True, Shop about and you\'ll find a 1600 is around half the price of a new 850

from memory did\'nt the S5 NA have 720 as Secondrys? or am i thinking of a diffrent Model?

So you taking the Plung, Fitting a Microtech. :)

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#5
Hi Stu,

As has sort of been said, FD injectors are side feed but T11 are top feed

BTW, We sell top feed 1600 injectors for £76.73 + vat each and wont sell 1300\'s because other companys have had failures in the past with the injectors seizing and wipeing engines out  :2eek  :2eek .
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grinder

thanks for the input guys - i just thought that 1600\'s might have been a bit over kill

still on the stock turbo and IC

unless you can tune them down that much ???

Chris : not sure where you can get 720;\'s from - they are usually very expensive , and yes im VERY tempted to go the microtech route - just from what kev showed me ( git !! )

i suppose the question to ask is

"what can i put in a STOCK FC rail that wont need mods ?? "

Stu :D


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Grizzly

No the question is what is you buget and what are you going to upgrade further in the future?

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Silly question with Stu he doesn\'t have a budget but will gratefully take any donations :D
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grinder

hummm good question chris

OK then .

1 - yes im on a budget - a very tight one
2 - i would like to see 240 - 250 at the wheels
3 - prob keep stock tubbie and IC
4 - will no doubt fit water injection ( cheaper than FMIC )

and thats about it really ..nothing over the top - but something with a bit of grunt :D LOL

im not sure the best way forward - but i want to do it safely

and as kev convinced me - everything i put on i can take off and sell :D

Stu


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Grizzly

So what your saying is you need to find a stock car that has 750\'s up that is low imp (not 100% sure if there High or low??)

Its only the Begining of the circle, if you fit big injector with a Bigger Pump then you\'ll need a Rising rate fuel reg too?

You should have bought my 1000\'s. :Nono!

Brett

Could you not fit an FD fuel rail and inlet manifold?  Failing that why not find out what other cars have big top feed injectors that you may be able to use :)
Could you not go down the route of fitting and extra pair of injectors instead, that way you can keep the stock rail as is.
Just lobbing in some ideas :)
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Grizzly

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Quote from: grinderhummm good question chris

OK then .

1 - yes im on a budget - a very tight one
2 - i would like to see 240 - 250 at the wheels
3 - prob keep stock tubbie and IC
4 - will no doubt fit water injection ( cheaper than FMIC )

and thats about it really ..nothing over the top - but something with a bit of grunt :D LOL

im not sure the best way forward - but i want to do it safely

and as kev convinced me - everything i put on i can take off and sell :D

Stu

Not being funny but your not going to see the best part of 300hp at the flywheel on a Stock Turbo. Thing is people run 1 bar on the stock turbo and get about 250hp at the flywheel. People that have gone the Bigger Turbo way often Find the IC is Crap!! it often holds the power back and is usles past a point.

also may i sugest you don\'t go Microtech if you are going to remove it all when you come to sell, get a power FC as you don\'t have to change the Engine loom to run it, That would be a Problem if you wanted to remove the Microtech as it uses the Plugs of the old loom.

if you are only thinking small numbers you may be better buying a Fifth Injector set up and sticking a Stock Injector or two in?

(BTW i still have a T4 manifold and possably a Turbo for a Turbo 2 if you decide you want a bigger single)

Grizzly

Quote from: BrettCould you not fit an FD fuel rail and inlet manifold?  Failing that why not find out what other cars have big top feed injectors that you may be able to use :)
Could you not go down the route of fitting and extra pair of injectors instead, that way you can keep the stock rail as is.
Just lobbing in some ideas :)
The Fd lower Inlet won\'t fit a T2 engine (I tried ;)) you would stand more of a chance getting a FD rail and Injectors and make up a bracket so you can fasten the rail down (bolt holes are in diffrent places). you could do it this way but it would be a risk, Buying 2x Fd injectors and a Fuel rail??

Grizzly

Stu i have two letters for you if you want 300hp easy and safe .....F.....D....... ;)