Remote Central Locking

[nikp]

because i had to remove the dash in order to get to the alarm control unit

That\'s what I\'m afraid of! That\'ll be the nasty bit!

[RobbieRX-7]

it\'s not as bad as you may think though. There are 2 connectors by the ecu and 2 by the steering wheel column. The clocks or heater controls dont need touching. The steering column needs lowering , gear stick removed       <3 10mm bolts easy> a few bolts on the dash board, remove the a pillar covers by the windscreen and out it comes. I found the hardest part was taping and organising the mass of wires from the alarm ecu

[DC-TYPER]

Not an expert on this but, as you say, there must be a motor (or solonoid?) in the passenger door or it couldn\'t lock itself. So he must be talking rubbish over this, at least, so could be talking rubbish in general.

CHECK THE WIRING INFO HERE http://www.bulldogsecurity.com

OR  http://64.85.6.129/extrainfo/diagrams/14301_RX-7_CENTERAL%20LOCKING%20DIAGRAM%20JBS%20UNITS.pdf

[nikp]

Where abouts are the alarm boxes usually put? Roughly speaking i mean? Just so that i have an idea of what and where to search! I have figured out that all i need is a 2 wire solenoid, as it does not need to conform with the current passenger door solenoid, as all it needs to do is get its feed from the alarm box.

[nikp]

Think this might do the job

[RobbieRX-7]

that is the same motor that i used. There are 2 wires from your alarm unit. one unlock and one lock wire. These wires pulse a 12volt current for 1 second or so..just enough for the motor to travel the full distance. You can\'t wire these directly to the solenoid because they are low current rating, and if you do,  you stand the chance of blowing the  alarm ecu- so you need 2 relays. Once it is all rigged up, it is just reversing the polarity of the motor..just like swapping the pos+ and neg- wires over on a motor. The alarm ecu is usually located behind the clocks, i dont mean if you remove the clocks and there it is, i mean it is screwed to the chassis behind the dash, in the instrument area  but you have no chance in hell trying to wire all this up with the dash in place. :evillaugh

[nikp]

You can\'t wire these directly to the solenoid because they are low current rating

Surely a solenoid is low current anyway?

[probedb]

ill take my door card off at the weekend.....
ive just had mine fitted while i had my clifford installed

this would be fantastic. if you can take photos, i\'ll get back to my alarm place and ask why they couldn\'t fit it when it\'s obviously possible.

cheers

[RobbieRX-7]

The 2 wires alone could prob operate the motor without the relays, but i am just going on what i have read off the net. I would rather be safe than sorry when your talking many £££ for a new alarm ecu plus the hassle of fitting it or paying to get it fit compared to 2 relays that cost under a fiver. Its just a case of running a 12+ wire from the battery to the 2 relays.

[nikp]

I would rather be safe than sorry when your talking many £££ for a new alarm ecu compared to 2 relays that cost uder a fiver

True. But I\'m sure the manufacturers of these alarm systems knew all about solenoids, and currents, so i reckon they always intended the wires to directly access the solenoids...but maybe not. Perhaps it depends on a car by car basis. Dunno really! Ok, i\'ve confused myself!

[RobbieRX-7]

you can get the wiring diagrams off the net, and with my particular alarm (clifford) it states you must use a relay for each wire. Maybe some manufacturers of alarms incorporate the relays into the ecu.

[probedb]

you can get the wiring diagrams off the net, and with my particular alarm (clifford) it states you must use a relay for each wire. Maybe some manufacturers of alarms incorporate the relays into the ecu.

Can you email me (forums@probedb.co.uk) the stuff you have for your Clifford? I\'ve got a Concept 300 and want the remote locking but need more info so I can ask them why they can\'t fit it.

Cheers!

Paul.

[RobbieRX-7]

email sent paul. Your in luck mate cus i have the wiring diagram and the users manual for the concept 300. tbh with this wiring diagram, you can do anything you want like adding a smart windows module to close or vent the windows via remote or add an engine start module. With yours you can add different siren tones and adjust the settings using a laptop computer and the cliffnet wizard cable. You can get these add ons from ebay.

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/CLIFFORD-CAR-ALARM-CLIFFNET-WIZARD-PRO-KIT-COMPLETE_W0QQitemZ8053781721QQcategoryZ75329QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem#ebayphotohosting

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Clifford-Smart-Windows-4-remote-power-window-control_W0QQitemZ8055530241QQcategoryZ75329QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

[nikp]

I have the diagram for the toad alarm i have already (Ai606), which is a start.

[probedb]

Cheers nikp. Everyone thanks for the stuff

I emailed Clifford for another dealer and their head of sales is giving me a ring tomorrow since I complained about Technicar in Sheffield.