Quick Help Peugeot 106 problem

[allstaruk]

Hi

Just a quick one sorry if its in the wrong place but I may have the chance of a free car, a friend of a friend has asked me to look at a peugeot 106 1litre,


It starts and runs for a while then cuts out, while it was going throught its MOT the CAT got so hot it started glowing red, so the cat and lambda sensor were changed. This is suggesting to me that it could be runnign lean.

Basically its going to get towed if its not moved sharpish, does anyone have any ideas what to start looking for. I\'m not to familier with these cars.

Alan

[andyrose]

its free but french - leave it alone  :Giggle

[allstaruk]

How very constructive, I\'ve just towed it back to mine anyway.

Any one else?

[andyrose]

oooer, a thousand apologies.............

had a similar prob with my micra. would run ok until warmed up and would then just cut out & die. left to cool down and it would start ok.

when hot i found i had no spark at the plugs, ok when cold.

Inbuilt condensor thingymebob in the distributor was kaput.
scrapyard charged £15 for a replacement and its been runing ok for the last 20k miles

maybe the cats collapsed internally causing a blockage which resulted in it glowing red hot? clutching at straws..........

[allstaruk]

oooer, a thousand apologies.............

Sorry mate, having a bit of a bad day. Got drenched and cold.

Went to look at it today and I couldn\'t even get it to start, from what he told me it sounds somthing similar to your condesor problem.

Its had a brand new cat and lambda sensor, 4 tyres and driveshaft, it was MOT\'d last november, he drove it home and the when the bloke came round later in the afternoon to buy it and it wouldn\'t start. One of his mates has looked at it but couldn\'t get it to start so he gave it to me as the concil were about to tow it.

Its done 7 miles since the mot in november.

Anyway it was free so it owe\' s me nothing yet.

Cheers Al

[jon haines]

Does It Sound Like Its Trying To Fire / Cough Splutter Ect. Can You Smell Petrol Under The Bonnet. Take Out The Plugs And Try To Explain What Condition The Tips Are In- Sooty/wet/ Dry/grey Ect. Does The Car Turn Over Slowly/ Very Fast.

[sparticus]

I had the same problem on a Rover 216, and it was a problem with the spark igniter in the distibutor. It would start and run ok until warm then cut out and wouldnt start until cool again. Also on mine the rev counter would also flick about before cutting out.

[allstaruk]

It had a flat battery when I got there but now its charged it turns over well it just doesn\'t catch and doesn\'t even try to.

[Icesurf3r]

Does it have a \'crash switch\'???

My girlfriend has a 106 and had a similar problem, it was fixed in 2 minutes.  Look to see if it has a small black plastic/rubber button about 2" square in the back right hand corner as you look at the engine bay from the front.  If it does try pressing the top to reset it and make sure it is fixed in an upright postion.

My girlfriends had broken off the fixing and was at a 45 degree angle and so this had cut off all fuel to the engine, so it would turn over but not catch  Hope that helps

[Martiny]

Check for spark.
Remove a plug lead, put a piece of wire in the plug lead and put that wire abour 5 mm or so from a metal part of the engine, then turn the starter. You should see a spark jumping the gap.

Once its fixed, sell it for £50 then get a Mazda !

[alban1973]

Hi there,  From the first bit of info, sound like the cat was blocked or had collapsed, That is why they will get red hot through restricted flow, you may have found the car would have no power ( not that it had a lot to start with!!!!) so the cat replacement was good, lambda replacement not a bad idea but not necessally essential.   the second problem I need some more info.  Is the car efi, or carb.     now the fact it will not start is actually easier to fix than the running fault.   If it is EFI tell me and I will run you through flashing the MIL, to get the codes from the ecu.    you will need an LED test light, some wire on peogeot and citroen\'s and a bit of car know how to do this. find the green 2 pin connecter which If I remember right is down by one of the headlights on 106\'s and will have nothing connected to it

 If it is carb look in the direction of the coil pack, check wires and conections, as as stated above check for a spark, if there is a spark, then try the fuel system, pump, filter, carb, choke mechanism, try pooring a little fuel in the carb and see if it will go, all the old tricks.  main thing is, start with an open mind, check all the obvious things first, dont jump to any conclutions untill you have checked everything..  Good luck

[allstaruk]

All good advice the first thing I\'m gonna check is that the CAM belt hasn\'t jumped a notch on the pulley this seems to be quite common on 106\'s, I\'m pretty sure its a carb.

[jon haines]

if its got a cat and lambda its e.f.i  isnt it? even if its single point.

[jon haines]

if youve used the above info to check for a spark(useing a plug sounds better than a bit of wire)you could check for fuel, see if you have any at the throttle body( carb if im wrong)

[allstaruk]

How would i tell if its carb or throttle body, if you take of the air filter looking into the top it has what looks like a carb that says "webber" on it, but then it appears to have a lambda sensor and an ECU, now I\'m lost.

Al