Another problem or two

Started by ScuttleRX, February 09, 2006, 10:43:24 AM

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ScuttleRX

Ive just gone to start the car after its been sitting there about a month or so, first problem is the apexi commander is showing 1.2 bar boost before I even start the car, second the car wont start (it turns over and fires but bogs down quickly and stops). Presume as the commander thinks it has 1.2 bar boost its putting in a lot more fuel than it needs?

If anyone can offer any likely causes would be much appreciated.

Also ive just re-fitted my headlights and huge panel gaps have now appeared almost like the lights have shrunk and my passenger seat has started to grow mould....im not having a good day really!

nikp

Ok, as I said in the PM to you, i would start with having a sniff around the MAP sensor. Thats where the ECU gets its boost reading from, so you should start there. It\'s probably not starting due to the reading it\'s getting from this sensor. So i reckon once you\'ve sorted that out, it should start (As lnog as it\'s not flooded!)

Mould shouldn\'t be too much of a problem: that\'s due to damp. Get some of those water absorbant crystals: they worked wonders on the moisture that was in my FD. Then once it\'s dried out, the mould will hopefully clean off.

Can;t help with the poor fitting panels though - sorry

ScuttleRX

Thanks for the tip matey, i shall get my hands on some of those crystals :)

Sounds like it could be the problem, where abouts is the MAP sensor?

I did a sensor check on the commander but dont really know what I was looking for, if anyone can decypher it I\'ll post it up

nikp

Map sensor is in this image - circled in red.

Yeah, upload what your sensor output screen was - someone should be able to help there. I\'ve got what everything means at home - but not at work with me now! :p

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map sensor is on bulk head just to right of manifold, small black bos approx 1"x2" with vacum line going to it.

ScuttleRX

Cheers guys i\'ll go give it a butchers

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ScuttleRX

Just checked the sensor, nothing wrong by sight vacuum lead is attached and ive unplugged it and cleaned it up.

The voltages on the commander are...

PIM   4.99
VTA1 0.72
VTA2 1.65
VMOP 1.03
WTRT 3.19
AIRT 3.26
FUEL 4.39
O2S  0.01

on the other side of screen all the abbreiviations has white circles, but these 4 have black HWL, NTR, PAC, CCN

ScuttleRX

Gary have you got any map sensors, or can get hold of some, if it turns out I need a new one? Or should I pop down the mazda garage

nikp

On the right hand side, all black means is that the switch is on, while white means it\'s off. It\'s the lot on the left that you should be interested in: are there any values flagged in black? If not, then the ECU has not noticed any problems.

Once cleaned up, what is the value being shown with the engine off? Should be zero, or thereabouts.

nikp

You could also try Jimmy\'s - but you really want to confirm whether it is the map sensor that is screwed.

are there any members in the Essex area that could help you? I\'m not sure when i\'ll next be coming up to Essex, but if you haven\'t got it fixed when i do - i could come over and swap out the sensor to see if it makes a difference.

ScuttleRX

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PIM value was in black, I thought it was just highlighted as it was the first one, soz should of mentioned that :) I did think it was high for engine off, thought that was the value that increased with engine speed/boost/etc

No the boost is still showing 1.2 after i cleaned it up

ScuttleRX

Yeah just double checked PIM value is definately in black (not highlighted, doh!). The PIM is the MAP sensor one isnt it? or related to it at least

nikp

Not sure - like i say i have the manual at home, and am having trouble finding it on the net.

Can someone else confirm? If it is the map sensor, your problems have probably been sorted quite quickly! :)

ScuttleRX

Lovely Jubbly, its funny how being tired can make a small problem seem a huge disaster! I was really cheesed off a little while ago but quite mellow now :) Shouldnt speak to soon but im hoping we\'ve solved the problem :D

I\'ll take the map sensor off in a while, give it a thorough clean then give it another try. It was quite gungy around it im thinking i may not have cleaned it enough, might shoot some WD40 in there to get any moisture out