Possibility of a 7 second RX-7 to come from Oz for ROTORSTOCK 3!

Started by Glenn Butcher, December 15, 2005, 03:45:03 PM

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Glenn Butcher

Hi all,

A little more information, we have actually been working on all of this since RS II.


The ability to bring a full on Pro RWD tube chassis RX7 capable of reliable 7 second times is certainly an option, but one that will take some financial funding to turn into a reality.

Bottom line we are still looking at $20,000 to bring a car and team.   Having said that, this equates to just 8500 - 9500 pounds depending on the exchange rate.   This covers the following things;

1 x Race car (transported there and back) - $5000 Australian
5 x air fares (race team) - $9000 Australian
2 x car hire (two cars for transport) - $1500 Australian
5 x accommodation (race team and myself) - $2500 Australian

Total rounded up - $20 000 Australian

If the Race car deal is going to go ahead, you guys are going to need to find some funding to make it happen.   Having said that, the owner is happy to have the car ‘blank’ so any possible advertisers/ sponsors get maximum exposure whilst in the UK.   Food for thought, but a huge opportunity for the smart investor.


So looking at it, we could reduce costs by providing Cars, and Accomodation.  But the reality is that we still need to fund the car coming across and back, and the crew.

We are not expecting individuals to put their hand in their pocket, but more to spread the word and ask companies you work for or know of to come on board.  To put a car together like this costs mega $$$\'s - experience of drivers, crew etc. is something built up over time.

It certainly would be special if it can happen.
Thanks,

g11ary

Was going to say Gary Gooding has a tubbed RX7, give him the money and you\'d have your 7 sec car.
1st you\'d be supporting a UK car and at the end it would have some value, not just wave good bye to it as it sails off.

Carl

Quote from: g11aryWas going to say Gary Gooding has a tubbed RX7, give him the money and you\'d have your 7 sec car.
1st you\'d be supporting a UK car and at the end it would have some value, not just wave good bye to it as it sails off.


Or Me (Hayward Rotary),Geff (ReWorx),Ross (Dragon),or Tim (RX Motors)
Regards
Carl

iaint

7 sec car for 9 grand?  Really? (@ Gary & Carl)

I\'m kinda torn on this idea.  

Part of me would love to see/hear/feel this car going up the trip and posting a time that\'d numb the other Jap crews into silence.  It\'d be wonderful to actually see this happen.

The other part is the bit that\'s looking forward to seeing the tuners who are currently pushing the times down get there bit by bit.  I remember the excitement of the last few years when we saw major milestones broken by Re:Worx and Dragon.  I wouldn\'t want to see anything take away from their achievements.

It would certainly be a huge draw though...

"The way to do is to be." - Lao Tzu

bnaellis

we only have 2 cars that run  sub 11 seconds in the country
Most don\'t even run sub 12\'s, lots of people try extracting high power out theres and end up blowing it up, plenty a people in this world with money
so just throwing 9k on a car is far from any gaurantee of achieving a 7 sec run or even close to a 7 sec run.
This kind of performance requires more than just money, hence not many 7 sec rx7\'s in the world.

Carl

For some people,especially those who already have partially modded cars such as Geff and Ross 9k could be all the additional needed to make their cars significantly quicker.
I was not suggesting that 9k could do it from scratch,but the rotary scene here is certainly not a big money earner,and most of us tuners here have carried out our work on our own cars on very limited budgets.
So a sum of money such as 9k could do alot for anyone who is more than half way there that\'s all.
Regards
Carl

Carl

BTW,I am not knocking the idea of seeing a 7 second car over here,it is just that if someone is going to sponsor the car for that sort of money then they may be better off doing it on a car that is not going to be here for a short time only.
It might be a better thing to sponsor a car such as Geffs,or Ross\'s that will be able to give a long term advert at numerous shows over a long period of time.

On the other hand the car itself coming over from OZ may well encourage many more to buy into the rotary over here when they see what one can really do.

Regards
Carl (Looking for sponsorship)LOL! ;)

nikp

How about a nice fat turbo on your four rotor monster then carl!?  :burnout

:D

Carl

Quote from: nikpHow about a nice fat turbo on your four rotor monster then carl!?  :burnout

:D


Mmmmmmmmmmmmmmm..........now there\'s a novel idea. :Tongue1
Regards
Carl

20B_boy

Quote from: g11aryWas going to say Gary Gooding has a tubbed RX7, give him the money and you\'d have your 7 sec car.
Lets be realistic - it takes more than a few grand and tubs to run 7s. How many Rotors are running 7s globally - not really that many. And those that are running them have untold setup knowledge which I imagine counts massively! Look at oz, 10 second cars are ten a penny. So are 9s - without tubs or any thing that trick. The difference between an 8 second car and a 9 second car is HUGE - the diff between an 8 and a 7 second car - massive again.

A 7 sec car is a massive investment - a nice G-Force transmission would go you a chunk of the 8-9k for a start. Huge rear end a load more. Then you need a 1000hp - thats not a cheap motor! The list is never ending honestly. Look at Glenns invoice in the other thread - thats the kind of thing you are looking at for a car of that magnitude...

Dont get me wrong, 8-9K would move us a long way forward no doubt and we\'d probably have some thing tangible for keeps in the uk. Hell, give me 20-30K to make up the difference and I\'ll buy Flaco\'s R100 - a 7 second package with pedigree fresh from the NHRA museum :InLove

R.
R.

Glenn Butcher

Have to agree with Rich! It was a suggestion that came forward, and I personally think it would be something sensational for everyone to see/hear.  Amazing burnouts, incredible speed, noise etc. etc.

I don\'t want to start another fight about all this!  IT IS NOT A UK V\'S AUSTRALIA THING! :)  

Again, it was a suggestion, a very good one.  It is just a pity that it takes money to do these things.  Even to just get a car and crew across to the UK - let alone build one!
Thanks,

bnaellis

Quote from: 20B_boyLets be realistic - it takes more than a few grand and tubs to run 7s. How many Rotors are running 7s globally - not really that many. And those that are running them have untold setup knowledge which I imagine counts massively! Look at oz, 10 second cars are ten a penny. So are 9s - without tubs or any thing that trick. The difference between an 8 second car and a 9 second car is HUGE - the diff between an 8 and a 7 second car - massive again.

A 7 sec car is a massive investment - a nice G-Force transmission would go you a chunk of the 8-9k for a start. Huge rear end a load more. Then you need a 1000hp - thats not a cheap motor! The list is never ending honestly. Look at Glenns invoice in the other thread - thats the kind of thing you are looking at for a car of that magnitude...

Dont get me wrong, 8-9K would move us a long way forward no doubt and we\'d probably have some thing tangible for keeps in the uk. Hell, give me 20-30K to make up the difference and I\'ll buy Flaco\'s R100 - a 7 second package with pedigree fresh from the NHRA museum :InLove

R.

Totally agree.

bnaellis

Quote from: Glenn ButcherHave to agree with Rich! It was a suggestion that came forward, and I personally think it would be something sensational for everyone to see/hear.  Amazing burnouts, incredible speed, noise etc. etc.

I don\'t want to start another fight about all this!  IT IS NOT A UK V\'S AUSTRALIA THING! :)  

Again, it was a suggestion, a very good one.  It is just a pity that it takes money to do these things.  Even to just get a car and crew across to the UK - let alone build one!

Totally agree Glen, would be great to see it here in the flesh.
I would much prefer to see and hear that beast going down the strip than
the jet cars.

g11ary

Not ever intended to start a fight, only suggested Gary as he is tubbed, has rear end sorted I believe, has engine and turbo. Thought that he would not want to much to finish, so most of the money would not be used to buy parts but make it run. He is possible the closest car ready for it in the UK. Thats the only reason I said that, hell give the money to me and I\'ll finish mine. Was just an idea like Glens that is it possible to support a UK car to do and have it in the UK for a long while, or just spunk the money on a two day run. Both would be awesome to see.

MikeLMR

you don\'t need 1000hp to run 7\'s ... you just need a lighter car. Just look at the all motor cars around the world. circa 600hp (300 of that on gas) and very low 8 second passes at least

Don\'t forget that a certain rotary tuner is already the record holder by a significant margin under 9 seconds in the UK ... but not on 4 wheels ;)