n/a rx7s

[wee_blim]

Hello all!! New to the forum and to the rx7 world, but love the looks of the car and am seriously looking in to getting one.

Couple of things really.

What model if any (as I have heard about people getting these without turbos) comes N/A?

Also is it a UK model? And is there any easy way of telling uk models apart without looking at chassis number (mx5 eunos import had square number plates etc)

Lastly would getting a N/A be more reliable in terms of things going wrong, as I take it that most problems people have are because of boosted engines.

Any help much much appriciated.
Thanks in advance

James

[Brett]

The 1st and 2nd generation Rx7\'s were available with N/A engines and most of the ones you see for sale in autotrader or ebay will be the N/A versions of these cars.  In the UK the only turbo charged 1st gen was a conversion, these are called \'Elford Turbos\'  The 2nd generation Rx7 Turbos are know as \'Turbo II\'s\' and Turbo II ocnvertible.   Everything else in the 1st and 2nd gen range is N/A.  There are no N/A 3rd gen rx7\'s.

[wee_blim]

thanks for the response.

I have my heart set on an fd though, so I guess I will just go for a twin turbo as I have heard they are a bit more reliable then single turbo due to pressure being put evenly on both instead of on one.

If I get a rebuilt engine thats been well looked after (say by a club member from here) besides changing oil ever 3k miles, and is it oil filter every 6k (sorry cant remember what it is i read but something should be changed every 6 thousand miles if i remember right was the oil filter) what else would I need to maintain fairly regularly besides obvious things, tires, brake pads etc?

Thanks again  

[grinder]

the oil situ :

change the oil and filter every 2K

let her warm up and cool down properly

be very careful with the FD , they BITE

the singles are serious cars , they only go pop more often due to the higher BHP etc...

depends on what you are used to driving , a stock twin running 280 bhp is a beast of a car

[Warthog]

How much are you looking to spend :Party

[wee_blim]

Ah ok, well from expirience of people here, what would most say would be more reliable for average use? I mean I wouldnt be using it as an  every day car, just a weekend kind of thing, and also wouldnt be pushing it to hard all the time, just every now and then when I may forget what im driving and need reminding of hehe  :evillaugh

[wee_blim]

well when it comes to how much I have, the max I have is 8k, however a bit of that is insurance, so I would say around the 6k mark, would quite like it to be in the region of between 5-6k as that way I still have a bit left over incase I need anything or for servicing etc.

Unfortunatly still have a bit of saving to do, but I like to enquire about these things early and really reasearch what im getting  :chat

[Brett]

I\'m going to move this thread into the appropriate section

When it comes to Rx7\'s it pays to look at as many as you can, and if possible take an experienced person with you when you go to look.  There are many people on here from Londo who would be able to share some info with you and help you out  It might be worth while you heading to the South UK meet for a chat and to look at some of the members cars.  Its held at the Wharf pub in Dartford on the 2nd tuesday of the month and there are examples of many different rotaries there.

[wee_blim]

I was kind of hoping when it comes to it, to actually get one off of someone from here as from experience when buying a car, its usually best to start by seeing if any club members are selling as you know they know how to take care of the car (especially as its a rotary) and your more likely to get a genuine deal. And for the sake of saving a few hundred pounds I would rather come away with a nice car and peace of mind that it has been looked after well.

[mullins]

I have my heart set on an fd though, so I guess I will just go for a twin turbo as I have heard they are a bit more reliable then single turbo due to pressure being put evenly on both instead of on one.

Most people will tell you a single turbo is more reliable. Also the FD turbo setup is run sequentally so the pressure isn\'t spread evenly over the two turbos as you have heard.

[Bulla]

What cars have you driven in the past mate ? Are you used to high powered vehicles or is this the first time you will be driving one ?

If its your first then a standard twin turbo FD should be more than enough for you and there have been standard FD\'s with rebuilds in the For Sale section in your price range.

Bulla

[sadgoth]

The FD as standard was only a twin turbo, any single turbo you look at will be a modified one (which will obviously have an effect on your insurance - have u had any quotes as the insurance prices are going through the roof)

[wee_blim]

Having owned a Saxo as a first car, using a 2.0 primera estate as a shopping car (the parents car) and currently owning a 1.8 golf, I suppose I have never really owned anything close to an rx7. The fastest car I have probably driven is a civic type r.

To be completely honest, aside from the model specification (added extras and suspension etc) there doesen\'t seem a great deal in it between single or twin turbos. The price\'s arnt a whole lot differance and the insurance is the same near enough for either. So if you guys reckon that single turbos and twin turbos are about as reliable as each other, I will go for either.

I do like the looks/specs of the type rz and type r i think was simular. Looking for around 1992 - 1993.

And as somebody pointed out that the FD\'s were not made with single turbos, I could have sworn they were, but I am not going to argue as I\'m probably wrong hehe.

Insurance like I said doesen\'t seem to make a differance, as imports are always higher I priced up a UK rx7 and it came back £200 cheaper than an import, (and the UK spec I put down as single turbo and import I put as twin. So as for that Im not to worried. The premium is failry high depending how you look at it. As it costs me £1200 a year for a 1.8 golf  (non gti) I think £2000 is pretty good for a 2.6 twin turbo import, especially as I am still fairly young (21) ((well will be in a few months - thats why im unable to get one as of yet))  :chat

[wee_blim]

Oh and yes I am after as standard as possible. I like to get the feel of any engine stock, before anything else goes on, so I will be looking as standard as possible. Besides mods only shorten the life span of engines imo so I would be fairly careful when getting them. Besides, 255 hp will be more than enough.. im not greedy after all  

[Freddy]

Hi,

Welcome to the club.

Near standard FD is ideally what you want and build from there. Also, as long as regular maintanence is carried out. You will find a stock FD utmost reliable.

Regarding power delivery and progressiveness. There is a big difference between sequential twin turbo set up and single turbo. If and when you do feel the need for more power from a near standard FD then a simple process can you get you up to 345hp. There is great potential from the stock twins, but of course as you mention. More modding will effect reliability and engine ancillaries.

For a budget of £6k, you would be unable to find a recently rebuilt one in good condition. In which case, you would prehaps needs to settle for one with no proof of rebuild but in overall good condition. However, there are always people on the forum that need a quick sale.

I also have near stock FD\'s with mild reliable mods from time to time or can supply one to spec. So if when you are ready, you could drop me an e mail;

freddy__k@hotmail.com