APexi AVCR Boost Controller

Started by BlitzBoy, February 14, 2003, 03:21:55 PM

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BlitzBoy

Has anyone fitted this boost controller to the twintub RX7?
and did they have any problems with the sequential setup of the
car?
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old spec HB T51 470 @ wheels @ 1.2 BAR, 555 @ fly 10.46 @ 130 @ 1.25 Bar
new spec FB T51 482 @ wheels @ 1.15 BAR, 570 @ fly

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Grizzly

It can be done but try to keep it simple on the twins, the solanoids arnt the most reliable things in the world and the Pipe work is a bit of a knightmare too.

Have you uprated the ECU/Fuel system? if so what ECU are you running?

If its a Power FC then you can add a simple Amal valve that is controled by the ECU and can be ajusted by the Controler. Most other Uprated ECU\'s are very simalar Haltech,Motech etc

I would steer away from the Piggyback type boost controlers and keep it as simple as possable.

Chris

BlitzBoy

cool, I\'m still looking to buy my first rx7 3rd gen, I\'ve just got an oppurtunity to buy an APEXI AVCR cheap at the mo.
I\'ve looked on a link to a website from here that shows the installation on a Rx7, it doesn\'t look to hard to do.
Whats the most boost are u able to run without ecu mods?
"Piston Killa" 3rd Gen\'94 \'Oldone Racing Full Bridge Ported REW 13b engine with SCR seals\'. HKS T51 KAI turbo BBM mapped Motec ECU

JDS/HKS Street Class Championship Runner up 2011
Rotorstock winner 08,09
http://pistonkilla.blogspot.com/
old spec HB T51 470 @ wheels @ 1.2 BAR, 555 @ fly 10.46 @ 130 @ 1.25 Bar
new spec FB T51 482 @ wheels @ 1.15 BAR, 570 @ fly

New Project
"el fénix" RX2 by Mark & Mark

bnaellis

Blitzboy,
I think the max the standard apex seal can take is 15psi approx .95 bar You can run higher boost but would not be a wise choice with standard apex seals especially if you have above average mileage.

rgds


Brian Ellis

BlitzBoy

cool, I heard conflicting points that the FD runs  12 psi standard,
but some people say its only 10 psi.
I thought it was 10(first turbo)-8-(Second turbo)10psi.
Which is true??
I think 14psi to 15 psi would provide quite a kick in the back in
an already fast car !:D
"Piston Killa" 3rd Gen\'94 \'Oldone Racing Full Bridge Ported REW 13b engine with SCR seals\'. HKS T51 KAI turbo BBM mapped Motec ECU

JDS/HKS Street Class Championship Runner up 2011
Rotorstock winner 08,09
http://pistonkilla.blogspot.com/
old spec HB T51 470 @ wheels @ 1.2 BAR, 555 @ fly 10.46 @ 130 @ 1.25 Bar
new spec FB T51 482 @ wheels @ 1.15 BAR, 570 @ fly

New Project
"el fénix" RX2 by Mark & Mark

bnaellis

Blitzboy,
Pre 96 run 10 psi
I believe that post 96 pre 99 run a tiny bit higher but more or less the same and post 99 ran approx 11.8 psi I say approx cause I knwo in mmhg but don\'t know exactly the conversion to psi.

rgds

Brian

BlitzBoy

ahhh that explains why post 99s run 280bhp due to the different turbos and running higher boost.
So by running a pre 96 (uk spec for example) at 13 to 14 psi it should run 280 or more bhp, Am I correct in this assumption?
What spec is your 3rd gen running at Brian?
"Piston Killa" 3rd Gen\'94 \'Oldone Racing Full Bridge Ported REW 13b engine with SCR seals\'. HKS T51 KAI turbo BBM mapped Motec ECU

JDS/HKS Street Class Championship Runner up 2011
Rotorstock winner 08,09
http://pistonkilla.blogspot.com/
old spec HB T51 470 @ wheels @ 1.2 BAR, 555 @ fly 10.46 @ 130 @ 1.25 Bar
new spec FB T51 482 @ wheels @ 1.15 BAR, 570 @ fly

New Project
"el fénix" RX2 by Mark & Mark

bnaellis

I found a converison I think it\'s right the 99 spec 280bhp rx7 runs at 570 mmhg which is approx 11 psi
If you had a normal 265 bhp rx7 and upped the boost a little yes you would hit 280 quite easily. The main changes on the 99 spec to increase power to 280bhp were the turbo\'s for better accelerated air flow, 10% less exhaust back pressure, 80% better flow to the intercooler, and increase in boost pressure in the ecu.
I have a 98 Touring X (auto)
my boost gauge shows I am running .8bar but I doubt it very much, I guess a slight inaccuracy with the boost gauge. The boost was not actually changed as such on post 96 pre 99 cars but it had a ecu that managed the fuel and turbos better than pre 96 cars. I have a blitz catback & blitz induction kit, a better flowing exhaust does raise boost but I do not think my blitz catback would raise boost to .8bar on it\'s own yet maybe I don\'t know. I am taking my car to a dyno soon to see how it performs as I have someone coming over from Japan in April with some goodies for me one of which being a panspeed hiflow cat so I will perform another dyno then and see how the increased flow affects things.

rgds

Brian Ellis

BlitzBoy

So your running about 11.6 psi at the mo.
Cool..the mods I\'m planning (getting ahead of myself as haven\'t got the car yet lol) Will be the Apexi Boost Controller (13-14psi), Blitz NUR exhaust, Decat pipes with downpipe (of course I will retain the cat for MOT time),Trust Airinx dual intake filter system, this should net 280 bhp plus on a uk spec or I\'m missing something?
"Piston Killa" 3rd Gen\'94 \'Oldone Racing Full Bridge Ported REW 13b engine with SCR seals\'. HKS T51 KAI turbo BBM mapped Motec ECU

JDS/HKS Street Class Championship Runner up 2011
Rotorstock winner 08,09
http://pistonkilla.blogspot.com/
old spec HB T51 470 @ wheels @ 1.2 BAR, 555 @ fly 10.46 @ 130 @ 1.25 Bar
new spec FB T51 482 @ wheels @ 1.15 BAR, 570 @ fly

New Project
"el fénix" RX2 by Mark & Mark

bnaellis

LOL.  Rather than the apexi boost controller with those mods you would need an apexi ecu, apparently boost can be controlled with this also, I do not know how well though. with the rest of the mods stated you will be above 280 bhp. Once the catalyst converter is removed and replaced witha midpip you release a serious amount of power. You can leave boost standard with those mods you want and still hit 300 bhp. A lot of power is released when you de-restrict the rx7 exhuasts system.

rgds

Brian

BlitzBoy

Yes Apexi Power FC ECU would be the way to go, but given its price I would keep that on hold until I would save enough dosh
for a single turbo conversion (one can dream for now lol) and do it all in one hit.
Does the Power FC handle bigger injectors when doing single turbo conversion? I suppose that question would be best answered by someone who has done it on this forum.
"Piston Killa" 3rd Gen\'94 \'Oldone Racing Full Bridge Ported REW 13b engine with SCR seals\'. HKS T51 KAI turbo BBM mapped Motec ECU

JDS/HKS Street Class Championship Runner up 2011
Rotorstock winner 08,09
http://pistonkilla.blogspot.com/
old spec HB T51 470 @ wheels @ 1.2 BAR, 555 @ fly 10.46 @ 130 @ 1.25 Bar
new spec FB T51 482 @ wheels @ 1.15 BAR, 570 @ fly

New Project
"el fénix" RX2 by Mark & Mark

bnaellis

Yes it does, it both handles bigger injectors & additional injectors.
rgds

Brian

BlitzBoy

Thanks for your help Brian...
now to get the car :D .
I see you live in Croydon, I only live down the road in Sutton, so we will have to hook up once I\'ve got it.
"Piston Killa" 3rd Gen\'94 \'Oldone Racing Full Bridge Ported REW 13b engine with SCR seals\'. HKS T51 KAI turbo BBM mapped Motec ECU

JDS/HKS Street Class Championship Runner up 2011
Rotorstock winner 08,09
http://pistonkilla.blogspot.com/
old spec HB T51 470 @ wheels @ 1.2 BAR, 555 @ fly 10.46 @ 130 @ 1.25 Bar
new spec FB T51 482 @ wheels @ 1.15 BAR, 570 @ fly

New Project
"el fénix" RX2 by Mark & Mark

bnaellis

Sure mate. I am often just down the road from you in wallington actually. I got alot of family that lives down that way.
When you planning on getting one ??

rgds

Brian

BlitzBoy

My insurance money will be coming in 2 weeks I\'ve been told,
So March time, hopefully the 2 uk spec FD rx7s I\'ve seen for sale will still be available when I come to buy
"Piston Killa" 3rd Gen\'94 \'Oldone Racing Full Bridge Ported REW 13b engine with SCR seals\'. HKS T51 KAI turbo BBM mapped Motec ECU

JDS/HKS Street Class Championship Runner up 2011
Rotorstock winner 08,09
http://pistonkilla.blogspot.com/
old spec HB T51 470 @ wheels @ 1.2 BAR, 555 @ fly 10.46 @ 130 @ 1.25 Bar
new spec FB T51 482 @ wheels @ 1.15 BAR, 570 @ fly

New Project
"el fénix" RX2 by Mark & Mark