Aftermarket traction control system?

Started by Tim Oldland, November 23, 2005, 01:27:48 PM

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Tim Oldland

Afternoon all,

I\'m considering fitting a Racelogic Traction Control system to the Rex, to make it a bit less of a nightmare over the winter.

The system is around £550, and looks pretty interesting as you can vary the level of interference, down to none at all.

The website says you can fit it to any car with electronic fuel injection and ABS, so i\'m assuming that includes Rotaries, but i\'m awaiting an email back from them to confirm this.

Has anyone looked into this, or fitted it to theirs?

Any help gratefully appreciated.

Tim
"Life moves pretty fast. If you don\'t stop and look around once in a while, you could miss it...."

        - Ferris Bueller, 1986

nikp

I guess it identifies slip levels for the rear wheels using the abs \'cogs\'. I wouldn\'t have thought that the type of engine has anything to do with it as all it needs to do is do a similar job as a rev limiter does: cut off fuel, retard ignition when wheel spin is identified.

Tim Oldland

Yep, thats what i thought.

Just wondering if anyone has tried it on here....
"Life moves pretty fast. If you don\'t stop and look around once in a while, you could miss it...."

        - Ferris Bueller, 1986

TRex

No experience in the 7\'s.. But most us chaps in the mkiv Supra club use/used it and believe in it..
 I\'ve sampled it several times and it is quite good...  The race logic one I\'m on about.

 Personally, my traction control is my \'right foot....\'  ;)
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nikp

I quite enjoy the little squirms the 7 does. Good fun! And to be honest, even with traction control, you can still throw your car into the bushes by going to fast round a corner.

GeckoGareth

Tim - I\'ve got the system sat in a box waiting to get fitted!

I spoke to racelogic for some time and did a bit of research before getting it and it should work on the rotary no problem. It monitors the ABS sensors and on detecting slip it cuts the spark so no more power from engine = no more slip.

You can dial in how much slip from 30%-0% the system will allow before it cuts in. My system also has launch control :) Will be looking forward to giving it a try when it\'s installed.

Quite a few FD\'s in the US running with no probs although there is a few who have tried to attribute it to engine failure. It seems that if it\'s installed correctly then there shouldn\'t be probs.

Hope that helps.

Gareth

Tim Oldland

Cheers Gareth, i think i\'d just go for the standard set-up without launch control, but its good to know someone else will be trying it out.

I may be getting it fitted in a couple of weeks, i\'ll let you know how i get on!

Its true that you can always bin your car, but this system would have stopped me binning it due to diesel on a wet roundabout....  :D

There\'s no substitute for a decent driver and a bit of nouse.....
"Life moves pretty fast. If you don\'t stop and look around once in a while, you could miss it...."

        - Ferris Bueller, 1986

sdminus

I think the prob with the system is how it controls the engine after speaking to a friend who had one a few years back. I think it messes with the injector pulse and hard cuts the ignition. Not best when it goes wrong. It does use the ABS sensors.

Good luck boys

Scott

Warthog

Scott, think you are on the money there mate. When I asked about that system at Reworx I was told to forget it, rotary engines don\'t like it. So I did till now. :wiggle
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sdminus

Quote from: WarthogScott, think you are on the money there mate. When I asked about that system at Reworx I was told to forget it, rotary engines don\'t like it. So I did till now. :wiggle


Not sure what you mean mate. Somebody who i respect gave that info . He told me the full story and i would never touch it. But there are ways to do it :3gears-lh

Are you really gonna bother with it. The fastest guys in the us dont use it and some of them get 1.6 sec 60fts. some even 1.4 sec in stock fd\'s

Scott

Warthog

I ment even talking about the subject. I wouldn\'t fit it if it was free. :eek:
I\'M ALWAYS IN THE SH*T IT\'S JUST THE DEPTH THAT MAY VARY.

Project Evil seven.:evillaugh

RE:WORX---13b RE engine, Motec M400 Pro ECU, Os Giken 5 speed internals-Gearbox, HKS T51R KAI turbo, With 575 @ Fly, 487.9 @ Wheels @ 1.3bar 420 ftlbs, on PUMP FUEL Sheel V-Power. BUILT & TUNED BY RE:WORX. More work planned..:InLove

REW, Stock Twins, RE:WORX-- British Record, 389.2 @ Wheels -- 03/09/2005.

Fish

Might be worth doing a little search on this, as this stuff has been talked about before. It was also discussed in great length on the RX7Club forums.

I dont think if was a good idea from memory.

Fish

sdminus

Quote from: WarthogI ment even talking about the subject. I wouldn\'t fit it if it was free. :eek:


Argh I C   :rollin Me neither mate

Scott

Tim Oldland

Thing is, you can have all the bravado in the world, but if it makes my FD easier to drive on a daily basis through the winter months then its a bonus and i\'ll take it.

The bloke at Racelogic has said that they\'ve fitted it to 2 RX7\'s on the continent, and they\'ve had no problems with it. He\'s offered to fit the system for free if i go to their HQ, so i\'ll probably do that.

Of course, it may have to be afetr xmas now, bloody xmas presents.......
"Life moves pretty fast. If you don\'t stop and look around once in a while, you could miss it...."

        - Ferris Bueller, 1986

Fish

Traction in an FD or any performance vehicle for that matter comes down to one thing.

How heavy you use the right foot.

Fish