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Started by Glenn Butcher, August 24, 2005, 03:36:17 PM

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andrewrx7

A quick question (hope it isn\'t a stupid one though!): if you were to knock, say 0.2sec off the 0-60ft time (i.e. getting from a 2.2 to 2.0), and all things being equal you have a spot on run, would you expect to knock off 0.2s off the ET, or would this saving amplified down the strip and actually finish with say, 0.4s off the ET?

ScuttleRX

Ive heard, sort of rule of thumb thing, that every 0.1s you can knock off 0-60ft is about 0.2s off yourt 1/4 mile time, how true that is I dont know but like you say I reckon the saving get amplified down the strip to some extent

Kieron

I managed to knock off 0.4 off my 0-60 ft (2.224 is my best) and with more power (almost 30rwhp) but I still cant get close to my 13.6. Best was a 13.749. I don\'t get it!

ScuttleRX

hmmm strange! thought knocking 0.4 off would have had a huge effect, any spin/slip in 2nd gear with the extra power? so did you get a 1.8 60ft or do you mean your 13.6 run had a 2.6 60ft

Donato

Quote from: KieronI managed to knock off 0.4 off my 0-60 ft (2.224 is my best) and with more power (almost 30rwhp) but I still cant get close to my 13.6. Best was a 13.749. I don\'t get it!


How many runs did you do mate?

Kieron

#320
I think I might be lexdysic  :xconfused

My 13.676 went like this:

60ft 2.244
330 ft 5.917
1/8 et 8.965
1/8 mph 82.24
1/4 et 13.676
mph 104.14

My 13.749 went like this:

60ft 2.337
330 ft 6.201
1/8 et 9.179
1/8 mph 84.90
1/4 et 13.749
mph 108.40

John Yorke

All these times and all are fine, if we were all perfect and every run we did was the same :rolleyes: Unfortunately this is not the case, there must be loads of examples where peeps have upped their game [more power, better drive train ect] and have ended up with a cr#p time mainly due to not doing what they did when they made their best time [launched @ higher / lower revs, changed gear earlier / later ect. worst of all TRACK conditions were not the same]
One thing above all I have discovered over the last few years...... This 1/4 mile thingy aint all about power its MUCH more about technique, being \'one\' with your motor, understanding what makes a 1/4 time, I am sure the top drivers if they got into anyone of our cars they would make most of us look like idiots :god They have the ability of making sub 1.6 60\'s where we are just dreaming of it, smooth controlled gear changes [god how many times have I dreamed of that!] and above all being focused.
Have a look at this table what is the difference between top and bottom and then look at what power these guys are running, I tell you its a great deal more about ability than power...... learn to drive :cool

Kieron

LOL I did 7 runs on Sunday, and I suppose I have only ever done 20 in total in my whole life so loads of practice needed  :rollin

andrewrx7

Good thoughts John! All perferctly true!

Quote from: John YorkeHave a look at this table what is the difference between top and bottom and then look at what power these guys are running, I tell you its a great deal more about ability than power...... learn to drive :cool

Since I\'m bottom of the pile, I therefore have neither the ability nor the power!  :rollin

Donato

Quote from: John YorkeAll these times and all are fine, if we were all perfect and every run we did was the same :rolleyes: Unfortunately this is not the case, there must be loads of examples where peeps have upped their game [more power, better drive train ect] and have ended up with a cr#p time mainly due to not doing what they did when they made their best time [launched @ higher / lower revs, changed gear earlier / later ect. worst of all TRACK conditions were not the same]
One thing above all I have discovered over the last few years...... This 1/4 mile thingy aint all about power its MUCH more about technique, being \'one\' with your motor, understanding what makes a 1/4 time, I am sure the top drivers if they got into anyone of our cars they would make most of us look like idiots :god They have the ability of making sub 1.6 60\'s where we are just dreaming of it, smooth controlled gear changes [god how many times have I dreamed of that!] and above all being focused.
Have a look at this table what is the difference between top and bottom and then look at what power these guys are running, I tell you its a great deal more about ability than power...... learn to drive :cool

very well said tht man! Thats why at rotorstock i got my 12.95 on my 20th run, if you not a good driver just do my method with the law of averages  :D

When i did my 13.03 it was my 8th run of the day...dont get me wrong i was pretty consistent, but it took at lot of runs playing with launch revs, tyre pressures, hangover wearing off  ;) , and just general practise. You cant expect to do one run and get in the mid 12\'s or whatever your aiming for, its a roy castle dedication thing thats required here!!  ;)  :3gears-rh

Not sure about being one with the car, my fiance says i alredy spend to much time with the other woman in my life  ;)

borgue

the record 12.62 was set on the guys 3rd or 4th ever drag run!

sdminus

#326
Quote from: John Yorkelearn to drive :cool

Well said John !


There really is only one way to learn this. Practice. Make sure you record what you do for every run. I do.
We spend so much time on the car messing with little things and trying new things. There are so many variables to be adjusted and each one changes again with the surface. You may find that you cut a killer 60ft but end up with a slower time. On the other hand you could cut a 2.1 a get a 12.6 or less. it is true you can gain 0.2 sec per 0.1 you gain on the 60 ft but if you un balance the car doing a faster 60ft then it may not get going after that.
I really think if you all are looking for the answers on a forum then u will be in the 12\'s when the top guys are in the 11\'s and 10\'s


Scott :wave

Sorry just my 2 penith

bobster

Is there any chance I could be added to the table... no times for this year but best to date is

    
FD RX-7
   
13B Twin Turbo
   
Street
   
13.08
   
110.28
   
ROTORSTOCK-I
Mines Black and dirtier than Donatos. But hey, no-one asked for a good clean fight.

chrisBoid

Quote from: bobsterIs there any chance I could be added to the table... no times for this year but best to date is

    
FD RX-7
   
13B Twin Turbo
   
Street
   
13.08
   
110.28
   
ROTORSTOCK-I

Updated :)  Can you remeber if it was the Sunday or Monday you ran?  Good time by the way!

bobster

Not bad for an PFC and and exhaust I feel, running 0.7 bar.. thanks.
I ran both days last year... and pulled 13.0 on both days... Got a few tricks up my sleave for next year  :rolleyes:
Mines Black and dirtier than Donatos. But hey, no-one asked for a good clean fight.