Turned my Rex into a tractor...

Started by dandan, July 04, 2005, 11:20:07 PM

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Freddy

I aint you beat me to it. :)

Have a check up on the receipts/ecu and keep us all updated.

Good luck.

20B_boy

Quote from: FreddyFrom a good source within Panspeed. Their mapping is excellent. Recently I had taken a car for Apexi power fc and re map. It was running a stock ecu and F con V pro tinkered with by Panspeed.

We had the car on the rollers and realised it was running perfectly well on optimax and jap spec ecu set up. Car made 360 at the hubs. No power fc needed and no re map.
What does \'perfectly well\' mean? It felt good and fuel-ing was on the money A/F-wise according to the lambda plot? Did whomever was dyno-ing the car have F-Con s/ware with which to interrogate the map in more detail? My point is, in saying every thing was running perfectly - have you any idea what the ignition timing was like for example? I have no doubt that Panspeed know their nuts (one of my fave lot), but if you are basing perfection on feel and just A/F and power plots from a dyno its a bit of a stab in the dark as to whether the car is running safely in UK conditions IMO...
R.

Freddy

Calm down Rich.

All information was provided by Panspeed in respect of ignition timing.

In light of running perfectly well. The mixture was nice and rich. There were no real dets to worry about. Map details were also recieved by fax.

Dyno\'d by Pip.

20B_boy

Quote from: FreddyCalm down Rich.

All information was provided by Panspeed in respect of ignition timing.

In light of running perfectly well. The mixture was nice and rich. There were no real dets to worry about. Map details were also recieved by fax.

Dyno\'d by Pip.
I was calm mate:yes

Being assured of the timing by the horses mouth negates the main reason for my post - which was just pointing out that a dyno run indicating healthy AF\'s doesnt mean its necessarily safe. We see plenty of dead cars with ecu\'s like these on at the workshop (hence we have loads of them kicking about), a lot would be dead whatever they had on granted - and there\'s no way to say if the map was at fault without the appropriate equipment and software (I asked if the operator had the software, not who the operator was ;)). At the end of the day, you makes your choices and take your chances; I actually had a chipped RE-Amemiya ecu in my car for 15 months, it went real quick and spiked and crept its tits off all the time - but it never blew up in 20,000 miles  :3gears-rh

Just completeing the picture mate :D
R.

dandan

easy chaps! didn\'t mean to open any worm cans.
I know its not running the panspeed ECU cos i have that in a box, i got the panel off and had a look at the ecu, i can upload a photo in the morning but the code on it was as follows:
N3A7
EGI
N3A7 18 881A
0797003874

Looks pretty standard, little tiny Denso logo in the bottom corner of the sticker.
Got to be a standard one, right?

20B_boy

No worm cans Dan, just open discussion - nothings ever black and white, eh?

Yep, sounds like a stocker mate. Fingers crossed for compression test on Friday! It will either be  :( / :guinness or  :3gears-lh  :D
R.

dandan

nothing like a bit of free exchange of ideas i suppose!
Thats a very good point though, can we have lager standing by on friday, for medicinal purposes?

20B_boy

The fridge is ALWAYS stocked Danny boy!
R.

dandan

Lol, nice one!
Just spoke to the previous owner, he has sent the reciepts etc in the post, i was so excited when i bought the car i forgot to get all of the paperwork off him. (oops)
He says it was all modified before he even bought it, so when it was rebuilt it was in exactly the same state of modification as it is now.
big intercooler and 3inch straight through exhaust means if the ECU is standard, someone has messed up somewhere.

I have resigned myself to assuming I will have to shell out for the re-build ( plus a few, ahem, ESSENTIAL shiny bits possibly) so if it is not a worst case scenario, it will all be a bonus in my mind.
"you mean it will ONLY cost £1000 to fix? Brilliant!"

Roll on Friday, thats all i can say.

Tintin

fingers crossed for you buddy , hope it isn\'t the worst but if it is look on the bright side your power to weight ratio will be greatly increased due to an empty wallet  ;) ( sorry shouldn\'t mock )


Finally tuned - 317.3rwhp :burnout (thats 374.4fwhp for those who like bigger numbers)

12.8@110.64 at RS4:Thumbs-up

Brett

Good luck today, hope the open cheque book surgery goes without too much pain :)
Brap Brap Brap Brap

dandan

***UPDATE***UPDATE***

Ok well the car made it Re:worx this morning, turns out it has had quite a life, uprated susp bushes, evidence of a previous single turbo conversion (relocated air vaccuum box or something) all sorts of strange stuff.
Chirs did a compression test just as Geoff walked in the door and Geoff immediatley shouted out \'you\'ve lost a rotor\', he could tell from across the workshop, it was that obvious.
The rear rotor is well strong, but the front is totally broke and there are oil leaks around the turbo\'s so I might need to replace them too.
Worst case i\'m looking at around £3000, but hopefully with the recent rebuild i shouldnt need to replace the rotor housing and a few other bits.
That price includes an Apexi PFC too which means this shouldn\'t happen again.

As far as we can tell, Pip at WGT must have fitted the standard ecu to run the car in, and the owner never took it back to get it uprated, so the car has been running bad all this time, my luck that it breaks 2 weeks after i buy it!

They said that when running good, with the setup it has, it probably has about 300 RWHP, so the question is, while it is out, do i get them to port it? its tempting. Suppose i should wait and see what the price will be first.

All get well cards can be sent to Dandan\'s REX, c/o Reworx.

All wreaths and messages of condolence can be sent to Dandan\'s wallet, c/o dandan\'s back pocket, i\'m afraid he didn\'t make it through.

ScuttleRX

Get it ported mate if its something you want done, no point having the engine out again in a years time or something just to get it done :)

I can recommend a good plastic surgeon that should be able to help your wallet, Dr Egg :D

dandan

Dr Egg has been previously consulted and is refusing to operate any further, luckily I consulted Dr\'s Virgin and HSBC and they were happy to get their scalpels out, and Professor Alliance and Doc Leicester handed them the swabs and stuff.
He might just pull through.

Regarding the porting, its a really good starting point for future mods, right? I just know if i dont do it now, it wont be long before i will want more power and then it will cost me loads more.
Although, my Rex isnt a total minter, so if i want faster i could sell it in the future and get a cleaner, faster one? saving £500 odd quid now sounds good to me really, plus if it isnt ported it might be ready to run in time for JAE! yay.

ScuttleRX

lol :D

Im very much an opportunist modder, i.e if something breaks i\'ll replace it with something better, or if im doing one job that makes another bit easy to get at i\'ll do that too (provided there are enough doctors on standby), having a rebuild is just the perfect oppourtunity for porting :D If I was in same position, and I could get the extra £500 i\'d def have it done....but the choice is yours :D

But if I werent sure on if I was keeping it would be a different story...