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deanflowers · June 22, 2005, 01:58:23 PM

this is the first i have heard of you having anything to do with them as scoomer did not share that with me. I tried to contact you regarding opening my PMs up

as John suggested:

\'I would think that due to this situation, for clarification, you should be allowed access to your old pm\'s.

Ask whoever a mod, Clive, Glenn etc if they can help you.\'

your name was first on the list and i could not PM you or email you to ask.

didnt notice the other two email addresses on you sig my appologies just clicked on the send an email to the user button and it said i couldn\'t, i probably wouldn\'t of used your works one for something not related to your work anyways

I was under the impression that because the turbo pack is shown in the picture with the manifold that would be what i was purchasing, He had plenty of opportuinity to say about the cracks when i asked on the condition of the turbo pack.

The cracks should of been explained in the advert and i should of sent them straight back. lesson learned.

TRex · June 22, 2005, 02:39:51 PM

Sorry to get involved.
And please correct me if I am wrong here.

Firstly... the advert the chap bought the item from DOES NOT SHOW damage, hence why he probably offered to purchase!
We are talking about the advert placed in April not LAST YEAR!

Secondly... Everyones speaking about manifold and Turbo pack etc...
from what I can see or remember it is ONE unit of the Turbo.
And it looks like it is the turbo assembly unit that is cracked up, NOT the Manifold.....
Look at the first and second photos in the \'ADVERT\' , the first one shows the \'Turbo pack assy\' , the second shows \'the manifold\'.... Am I correct?

If I am then it is the \'Turbo Pack that is cracked not the Manifold\'...

Feel free to correct me if I am wrong! :o

deanflowers · June 22, 2005, 02:55:31 PM

the part under the text is cracked i will take some more pics if it makes things more clear, i think the mark near the left arrow is a cast mark but will confirm

TRex · June 22, 2005, 03:05:54 PM

Dean I am not showing cracks by the Arrows, just using the arrows to show the \'UNDERSIDE\' that is hidden with the cracks..
Can you confirm that this is correct Dean, \'that the underside is what has the cracks.\'

deanflowers · June 22, 2005, 03:09:25 PM

maybe this picture shows it more clearly

you can see the arm of the paddle in this picture

clive · June 22, 2005, 04:33:23 PM

Quote from: deanflowersthis is the first i have heard of you having anything to do with them as scoomer did not share that with me. I tried to contact you regarding opening my PMs up

as John suggested:

\'I would think that due to this situation, for clarification, you should be allowed access to your old pm\'s.

Ask whoever a mod, Clive, Glenn etc if they can help you.\'

your name was first on the list and i could not PM you or email you to ask.

didnt notice the other two email addresses on you sig my appologies just clicked on the send an email to the user button and it said i couldn\'t, i probably wouldn\'t of used your works one for something not related to your work anyways

I was under the impression that because the turbo pack is shown in the picture with the manifold that would be what i was purchasing, He had plenty of opportuinity to say about the cracks when i asked on the condition of the turbo pack.

The cracks should of been explained in the advert and i should of sent them straight back. lesson learned.

I do aggree about the PM bit in this case, although this will not be a problem in time as people won\'t be able to PM each other unless they are members.

Its a real shame that you did not just send the parts back if you were not happy as this was a dispute between two individuals and not a company against an indivdual , ( dirty washing in public and all that)

I will add that you are going to be very very hard pushed to find any Turbo\'s for cheap S/H money with no cracks in them but you then have to make the call as to if they are still useable and from what l saw they will still see service, remembering the cracks you are seeing probably happend years ago.

I once saw it written that an FD could probably melt a small icelandic island with all the heat from the twin turbo so resulting cracks have never supprised me

BTW my ShyAuto company sells only new parts due to the complications of S/H stuff as is being seen on this thread!.

TRex · June 22, 2005, 04:44:56 PM

Dean, thanks for clearing that up..

Correct in what I was saying then... That it is indeed the \'Turbo Pack\' that is sh*gged and NOT the Manifold.... :yes

Case solved.... good luck mate....

deanflowers · June 22, 2005, 05:55:04 PM

hopefully i can them sort out , i am only glad iam fitting the engine back in myself and not paying someone else to, the cost of these then going wrong straight away and having to repay someone would be a kick in the balls.

i think 4 sets have come up in the last 6 weeks for cheap money some have actually said no cracks.

if scoomer had shared with me who took them off i would have contacted you clive as you have reputable company and i accept that you feel they are servicable. But when the information wasn\'t coming forward and the person was blatently avoiding the question this lead me to doubt.

My luck with RXs seems at constant low after buying with with a suppossidly brand new engine and finding out that in fact its shagged (compression being 4.5)

deanflowers · June 22, 2005, 06:12:50 PM

here is a better picture of what part is cracked exactly, after reading back through it seems there is some confusion, probably down to me calling it the turbo maniflold, this is the cracked area, from the sound of it i have not been calling it by the right name.

so by buying a turbo manifold i have bought the part that this bolts on to which is around 2-3 inches deep correct?

? if so this isnt a great loss as mine is starting to crack anyways.

I think Trex understands what is broken

TRex · June 22, 2005, 11:38:20 PM

Quote from: deanflowersI think Trex understands what is broken

And the only one with the balls to back you!

Hope you have better luck with the car bud............... :cheers

deanflowers · June 23, 2005, 07:56:17 AM

so what is the way forward from here.

a) Fit them and see what happens

b) Have them repaired and then fit them (who is going to pay?)

c) Buy another set and try to get the money back

d) Use them as an expensive paper weight or ornament.

Maybe i should create a poll as to whether they are bolloxed or not?

nikp · June 23, 2005, 11:34:41 AM

As Clive said, cracking is non just usual, it\'s common place - it\'s the extent to the cracking that you need to decide how bad it is. And from the most recent picture you have posted, they really don\'t look that bad. After all, you\'ve just bought a set of \'second hand\' items. You shouldn\'t expect something in fantastic condition - true, you feel you\'ve been mislead - but as far as i see it, it\'s down to the confusion over the comminucation thats the problem - not actually the standard of the product bought.

The turbo pack looks useable to me (But i am no expert! :p). I think someone suggested, or has had it done, having the cracks welded. That will be only temporary though, due to the heat created by these turbos. (They do sit in the exhaust after all!)

I say, chuck \'em on, and give it a go! See how you go with them on. I reckon you\'ll be pleasently surprised!

dre · June 23, 2005, 11:54:27 AM

I wouldn\'t buy a second hand turbo pack with that extent of cracking. True they are useable but for how long?? and how much boost would you be able to safely run?? It\'s not exactly a small job changing turbo packs so you would want them to last a year or two before changing them again even if they are so called "cheap" second hand parts!!

My turbo pack that i have taken off has no cracks in it and my turbos were running 0.9 bar of boost!!