rotary beetle

[james]

come apart more like it,
i now have no front end

 :eek

ninjasx this chap is based in london, and making the kits for nearly half the price!
drop him a line  GERI4LEA@aol.com
knows his stuff and very helpfull
recons 13b turbo might get too hot in the back of beetle, but they are on with making a bolt on supercharger kit, which would obviously not cause us the same over heating probs  
what do you make of that dubber91
o im so excited :wiggle

[james]

hey bob,
hope you manage to get some time on that moggy of yours, have to have a retro converted rotary race one day, if we both ever get time to get some work done :rolleyes:

i just remembered i aint posted any picks of adapter kit yet, will get on it
also i found  a very helpfull chap in the uk, down in london, who does rotary conversions on all sorts, so if you need any help/advise, im sure he could help if you were stuck!
he is also making addapter plates, and got a good source of engines too

im back on with the split plan, although its gonna be a crew cab, and its gonna be 20b power too :cool
need to get the bug done first though, hoping to get a chap to do the panel welding for me, as i havent got time, and just want to get on with the mechanics

[travellinbob]

hey have you seenthe 20b turbo pwered black bus in oz? apparently it is a lethal machine.
 How much power do you want to stuff into the arse of a splitty?
 should be entertaining!

[james]

no, not seen that one, any one?? get me vid or picks!
like to know how he has it cooled
hey when i can overtake most road legal sports cars in my splitty, then ill be happy :p

[oldone]

Is this not just so cool boys,been monitoring this whole exercise........the planning goes about a whole lot of probs,adaptor,extra engine mountings(to keep the the motor from bouncing on launch),water cooling,(rad and fans)oil cooling(NB...NB) Balance weights on the motor(match pair or not),clutch combination(?),exhaust system(within noise limits),...................these are a few factors to worry about if th vehicle is to be used on the road.If for racing prposes and you are running turbos and gas and all the sissy aids,then it makes life easier,cos then you can cut out and adapt,if interested i can give some pics

[oldone]

Another thing,what gearbox are you running cos there are afew perms,you can get an adaptor for a 1300 box and a 1600 box,some adaptors you have to cahnge the starter motor,some you keep the stock starter motor,less hassle....What size flywheel you running ?How you gonna adapt the balance weight to the fly wheel,Will the cranckshaft need cutting down ?the beetle gearbox spigot shaft is a diff diam to the rotary crank,so the needle bearing comes out and now what.?

[dubber91]

the VW flywheel is adapted as follows;
you take the vw flywheel and cut out the centre.
You then get the mazda centre and have a machineshop braise or whatever, it into the centre. This way you have a VW starter ring on a mazda centre (which uses a woodruff key)
Yoiu then drill and tapp the 5 holes (i think) to hold the counterweight from an auto RX7 to the back of the wlywheel. fit the clutch then off you go!

The only difference in beetle and bus gearboxes is with the starter motor and flywheel. The PCD of the bellhousing is the same. Just make sure you use a 12v flywheel with a 12v starter etc etc...

[james]

old done
most of your questions can be answered on here,
http://www.geocities.com/zenjoe/vw.html

ill have it making as much noise as it will, untill i stopped and asked to quieten it down!
ill also be usin welded third 4th gears, heavy duty side plate and steel shift forks to make sure the gearbox is gonna be uo to it!
will be using a 1303s box, converted to swing axle, with close ratio 3rd an 4th so the mazda engine stays up in the second power band for ultimate power!

the split conversion will require a little more planning, but its doable! :chat

[20B_boy]

old done
most of your questions can be answered on here,
http://www.geocities.com/zenjoe/vw.html

He was asking you, not generally I think you\'ll find; this \'old one\' has done a fair few rotary vw conversions in his time!

Good to see you about again E.

Rich

[oldone]

http://photobucket.com/albums/a184/eradeklerk/ Some pics for the boys.... Hi ya bg boy.. :wave ,been some time now.Stayed busy with the Rx2 for some time....STARTS UP first time now.....sounds to cool...freaked the guys at the MOT station when they heard it and saw it.Had a small shake down run back from the MOT station :3gears-rh ,just the roads are a bit small...heheheheheheh and the bab is a bit slow.Never mind boys in blue.....Yer welcome any time to come and have some beers and a good chew.As i was saying anybody needs help I am always here to chat

Later

[james]

He was asking you, not generally I think you\'ll find; this \'old one\' has done a fair few rotary vw conversions in his time!

sorry chaps, missunderstood, read as if you were asking how we had figured this all out! and all the question marks :confused:

well i think, with a little thought, and the use of sites, ive got it figured out, so we will see what happens!
was going to remove the cross member with engine mount from the mazda, and modify it to fit
4 puck sprung clutch disk, for hard launches
and the addapter kit from kennedy, although i now have an english contact, will mate things up nicely!
also use things like gear box straps, urethane mounts, and a csp torque bar to stiffen up the rear, and reduce the hopping as much as poss! :wiggle

[james]

oh, and any help, advise and info, grately appreciated!



a long way to go, IT WAS SPOSED TO BE SO EASY!

 :chat    :chat

[oldone]

Cool bananas bro, all we need is to have a cud chew and bounce some ideas,there are lot of easier and safer ways to do things as i have found out.I have templates galore,drawings galore etc.....really willing to help.A ROTOR powered beetle is like nothing in the world you have driven !!!!! However it can be the scariest bitc... in the world to drive if its not put together properly
Later

[oldone]

http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a184/eradeklerk/Shop%20work/SDC80071.jpg

I thoght of something else......how does the spigot shaft of the VW motor fit the crankshaft og the Rotor motor as they are diff sizes.....?

[dubber91]

i already have my engine in the car. It fits fine. the adapter and flywheel are simple things. Its the electrics, exhaust etc thats the difficult part so ive been told...

steve