The price (£) of power?

[Carl]

Originally posted by mattmaclennan
I can do one for £34999.00

:rollin

here we go.....!!!:D

What\'s this price drop TV?
I can do a 9 second car for that money!LOL
Kind regards
Carl:D

[scooby_si]

I can do a number 2 on demand for just £33 but er i get my specialist coat for now.......http://www.smileycentral.com/?partner=ZSzeb008\' target=\'_blank\'>http://smileys.smileycentral.com/cat/12/12_3_129.gif\' border=0>
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[Carl]

Originally posted by chrisBoid
Excellent information

Personally, getting into the 10\'s would be my limit, my ballpark figure for that was £15-20k for a reliable upgrade package.

Hi Chris,
That sort of money would be able to get you into the 10\'s.
It makes a change to see someone who realises that to do it you need a reasonable amount of money.
Kind regards
Carl

[Carl]

Originally posted by scooby_si
I can do a number 2 on demand for just £33 but er i get my specialist coat for now.......http://www.smileycentral.com/?partner=ZSzeb008\' target=\'_blank\'>http://smileys.smileycentral.com/cat/12/12_3_129.gif\' border=0>
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Hi Si,
I think your\'e getting muddled up with long drop TV!
Kind regards
Holdinn by dose Carl:confused:

[iaint]

Anyone interested in going round corners these days or is it all streight lines?

Streight lines remind me of geometry, geometry reminds me of maths which reminds me of school.  Curves however...

Iain

[Carl]

I still build circuit race engines.
Iam currently building a 12a bridgeport for an ex TWR 1st gen RX7 that should hopefully do a 6 hour race at Spa in Seltember.
Kind regards
Carl

[iaint]

Nice one Carl - would be good if you could encourage the person/team running the car to keep us updated.  I\'m sure there are plenty of people on here interested in this kind of thing.

Will that be a n/a engine?  I\'d imagine that for endurance running it\'d last quite a bit longer (or have the potential to) than a turbo\'d one due to heat issues?

Iain

[bnaellis]

And I can sell one for much less:D

[Carl]

Originally posted by iaint
Nice one Carl - would be good if you could encourage the person/team running the car to keep us updated.  I\'m sure there are plenty of people on here interested in this kind of thing.

Will that be a n/a engine?  I\'d imagine that for endurance running it\'d last quite a bit longer (or have the potential to) than a turbo\'d one due to heat issues?

Iain

Hi Iain,
It is a 12a running an IDA webber which the car is homologated to run,in other words it has to run as it was run in the late 70\'s and early 80\'s.
The car looks exactly as when Tom Walkinshaw and Pierre Duidogne raced it back then,complete with Moutl on it!
Kind regards
Carl

[20B_boy]

Originally posted by iaint
Anyone interested in going round corners these days or is it all streight lines?

Streight lines remind me of geometry, geometry reminds me of maths which reminds me of school.  Curves however...

Iain

Phil Gooriah will be up and running again soon - look forward to some action from \'Animal\' soon. He\'ll be running an engine spec similar to Geff - and considering how good a driver Mr Phil is he should be scaring a few people on the track!!

[g11ary]

I wish Phil all the luck, he is a top guy and deserves better. But what makes you think that a spec engine the same as Geffs will work this time. He has had approx 12 engines from Geff in the last 18 months - 2 yrs and not completed a race, they keep blowing up. Someone else who has parted with money and never had the goods delivered.

[20B_boy]

Engines blow up when you are developing - as Phil knows and appreciates; Geff and phil have a very good understanding and relationship between them - Phil wouldnt be as keen as ever if that were not the case. Making a reliable package takes development time and expense - and engines, as Tim, Carl et al appreciate I\'m sure; the MoTeC was an unknown that proved VERY(!) problematic  and with little support it was hard to get things sorted out with out trying, killing, rebuilding and trying again (you remember the first engine to go was Carls with Ianettis? so what chance did geffs motors have?). Thats how it is. 12 motors now is it?! I thought it was 7 the last time this came up?! I\'m sure some one is keeping count. Any way, hopefully with MicroTech or Power FC Phil will have a few racing miles under his belt... And as for money - Geff has presonally contributed thousands to their mutual cause in parts as well as hours - so please dont continue down that road.
 
Geff\'s engine has run over 2bar on several occassions (and will do so more now), done an unknown number of dyno and 1/4 mile runs and is putting out enough power to pull 11.11 at present - sub-10 very soon I\'m confident.

Regardless of your personal issues with the man, the fact of the matter is that at this point in time in the UK he\'s putting way more boost thru his motor than any way one else and is making more power than any one else on the dyno.

As Carl said the other day - prove your power at the strip; who else has an engine running 130+ mph in the quarter mile? No one, and the only others near are Tim and Ross - no one else has an engine close that I know of...

It\'s one thing to say I can, another to be able to say I have.

[sadgoth]

Iam currently building a 12a bridgeport for an ex TWR 1st gen RX7 that should hopefully do a 6 hour race at Spa in Seltember.

Hi Carl, that wouldn\'t be for a certain chap in Aberdeen would it? I only ask because if it is, he bought my blown Gen1 Mk2 as another development project! I know he has one of the original TWR cars and also a stock of TWR parts too.

[g11ary]

Originally posted by 20B_boy
Engines blow up when you are developing - as Phil knows

(you remember the first engine to go was Carls with Ianettis? so what chance did geffs motors have?).

And as for money - Geff has presonally contributed thousands to their mutual cause in parts as well as hours.

no one else has an engine close that I know of...

So does that mean that he used Phil & his money to develop an engine as Phil has not raced for 2 seasons, but has blown plenty of engines trying, how many engines has Geff blown developing his, and did he get to race them first.

Are you suggesting that Carls engines are superior to Geffs.

Geff may have put labour (which cost him nothing) and some parts, sometimes second hand. Into the project as he wanted his company name on it, but has not Phil built most of the engines now, whenever I have seen Phil down there he has always been working and building on his own while Geffs works on others, and has Phil not paid thousands to Geff for this service.

There could have been a car to beat Geff but he was not capable of finishing it.

[20B_boy]

Geff may have put labour (which cost him nothing) and some parts, sometimes second hand. Into the project as he wanted his company name on it, but has not Phil built most of the engines now, whenever I have seen Phil down there he has always been working and building on his own while Geffs works on others, and has Phil not paid thousands to Geff for this service.

Labour costs him nothing? if you tiled my bathroom for free - would that cost you \'nothing\' - on the basis that whilst tiling my bathroom you\'re not able to generate income from other customers - how\'s that free :rollin

How many times have u been to geff\'s and phil\'s been there? Engine building - I think he may have built one or two with guidance. Oh, hang on - does that mean thats 2 engines knocked off of the dead engines count? May be phil did build all of them then

Parts - you have no idea; Ask Phil how he thinks he\'s been treated by Geff and let us all know what he says, eh? Or I\'ll ask him next week when he\'s down for a couple of cans :rolleyes: Do you seriously think he\'d still be with Geff if he wasnt happy with him? May be theres just not any one else he fancies trying or thinks could do better??

I\'m under no illusion that there are other cars that couldve (can!) beat Geffs - Ross\'s I\'m sure will be a 10 second car any day now, Gary goodings could\'ve been/might be? Likewise Erdins and a load of others. Let\'s hope so as the only good thing that comes out of the bitching is that the competition gets stronger and UK Rotors get quicker, faster...

Last post from me on the subject for obviuos reasons so :wave